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C Sean Watts · #1 07-07-2010, 11:23 AM

Disclaimer: I neither believe in 'black helicopters' nor have anything to gain, monetary or otherwise, when I say...I have made http://www.startpage.com my homepage.

This is the primary reason why.

Regardless of the 'flavor of the month' domiciled in the White House, ALWAYS protect your own privacy.

I have mentioned to some local fellow forum members that I have been an assistant precinct judge (at the board of elections) and not too long ago was in the right place and time to get a name and email of a European Parliament member who was allowed to search local names, addresses and other voter information.

jlomon · #2 07-07-2010, 11:27 AM

Privacy on the internet is tough to come by. We already know that Google et al. keeps a record of every search performed on their services, so the notion of privacy is pretty much out the window, unless you take steps to mask your IP address. Programs like HotSpot Sheild are good for that.

HuskyMan · #3 07-07-2010, 11:52 AM

most people are totally clueless as to the capabilities and processing power today's super computer systems possess. IBM got it's start by offering IT services to various governments for various purposes. one of those was Hitler's Third Reich Nazi regime and was used to track citizen information so the Nazis could determine who should be exterminated.

of course, only those bad bad nazis would think of using computers to do something so evil. all other governments only use computer processing power to do good things. right.

from Amazon's book review....

"The crucial technology was a precursor to the computer, the IBM Hollerith punch card machine, which Black glimpsed on exhibit at the U.S. Holocaust Museum, inspiring his five-year, top-secret book project. The Hollerith was used to tabulate and alphabetize census data. Black says the Hollerith and its punch card data ("hole 3 signified homosexual ... hole 8 designated a Jew") was indispensable in rounding up prisoners, keeping the trains fully packed and on time, tallying the deaths, and organizing the entire war effort. Hitler's regime was fantastically, suicidally chaotic; could IBM have been the cause of its sole competence: mass-murdering civilians? Better scholars than I must sift through and appraise Black's mountainous evidence, but clearly the assessment is overdue."

http://www.amazon.com/IBM-Holocaust-Strategic-Alliance-Corporation/dp/0914153102/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1278517300&sr=8-1

C Sean Watts · #4 07-07-2010, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan

most people are totally clueless as to the processing horsepower today's super computer systems possess. IBM got it's start by offering IT services to various governments for various purposes. one of those was Hitler's Third Reich Nazi regime and was used to track citizen information so the Nazis could determine who should be exterminated.

of course, only those bad bad nazis would think of using computers to do something so evil. all other governments only use computer processing power to do good things. right.

from Amazon's book review....

"The crucial technology was a precursor to the computer, the IBM Hollerith punch card machine, which Black glimpsed on exhibit at the U.S. Holocaust Museum, inspiring his five-year, top-secret book project. The Hollerith was used to tabulate and alphabetize census data. Black says the Hollerith and its punch card data ("hole 3 signified homosexual ... hole 8 designated a Jew") was indispensable in rounding up prisoners, keeping the trains fully packed and on time, tallying the deaths, and organizing the entire war effort. Hitler's regime was fantastically, suicidally chaotic; could IBM have been the cause of its sole competence: mass-murdering civilians? Better scholars than I must sift through and appraise Black's mountainous evidence, but clearly the assessment is overdue."

http://www.amazon.com/IBM-Holocaust-Strategic-Alliance-Corporation/dp/0914153102/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1278517300&sr=8-1

This has nothing to do with IBM, please read the statement by Ixquick at the above link.

TylerH860 · #5 07-07-2010, 12:06 PM

With the stuff I've googled since 15 years old, holding a political office would be out of the question for me...

HuskyMan · #6 07-07-2010, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by C Sean Watts

This has nothing to do with IBM, please read the statement by Ixquick at the above link.

companies like Ixquick are quickly finding themselves forced to answer for their privacy policies.

the thinking is this: Privacy bad, public disclosure good. after all, if one hasn't done anything wrong, one doesn't have anything to hide, right?

IBM was a major force in founding and creating the information or computer revolution, the revolution that Ixquick and others continues to promote. if one wants to know where the evil began, one needs to trace the roots to the source. in this case, the source is the team who created the technology which allowed a government to accurately focus on people whose racial makeup it deemed a threat.

By utilizing the science of neural linguistics, search engine data can be culled and processed to determine the intent of the end user. Some search engine providers keep searches and end user IP address information FOREVER.

C Sean Watts · #7 07-07-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan

companies like Ixquick are quickly finding themselves forced to answer for their privacy policies.

the thinking is this: Privacy bad, public disclosure good. after all, if one hasn't done anything wrong, one doesn't have anything to hide, right?

IBM was a major force in founding and creating the information or computer revolution, the revolution that Ixquick and others continues to promote. if one wants to know where the evil began, one needs to trace the roots to the source. in this case, the source is the team who created the technology which allowed a government to accurately focus on people whose racial makeup it deemed a threat.

By utilizing the science of neural linguistics, search engine data can be culled and processed to determine the intent of the end user. Some search engine providers keep searches and end user IP address information FOREVER.

You've confused a commercial, for profit corporation with the European Parliament, in fact, IBM is not even involved in this case. Again, please read more....NO O.T. HIJACKING ALLOWED.

C Sean Watts · #8 07-07-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jlomon

Privacy on the internet is tough to come by. We already know that Google et al. keeps a record of every search performed on their services, so the notion of privacy is pretty much out the window, unless you take steps to mask your IP address. Programs like HotSpot Sheild are good for that.

Exactly, because if you use others' sites/programs/servers you will pay in one form or another.

THE DIFFERENCE? This time it's a government body trying to MANDATE it and it is that same government body, not the commercial business with whom you conduct your search, who will keep the information (see the link) - GeStaPo all over again.

HuskyMan · #9 07-07-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by C Sean Watts

Exactly, because if you use others' sites/programs/servers you will pay in one form or another.

THE DIFFERENCE? This time it's a government body trying to MANDATE it and it is that same government body, not the commercial business with whom you conduct your search, who will keep the information (see the link) - GeStaPo all over again.

this is where most people can't see the forest for the trees. a business that is incorporated under the laws of a government is, for all intents and purposes, controlled by the government. the government merely allows the shareholders, president, vice president, secretary, etc to operate it's entity. and only as long as the worker bees (resource units?) do it according to the wishes of the creator, i.e. the government.

"the Created always answers to it's Creator"

- Husky

#10 07-07-2010, 11:34 AM

The bottom line is; assume that everything you do on the internet is public.

mytmousemalibu · #11 07-07-2010, 01:14 PM

Privacy? whats that?

Sad but true...

strelnik · #12 07-07-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by C Sean Watts

Disclaimer: I neither believe in 'black helicopters' ....

You SHOULD believe in black helicopters, they are out there.

And remarkably quiet, too.......

powerpig · #13 07-07-2010, 02:03 PM

First off, this was a paid for press release from ixquick. Secondly, just use a anonymous proxy service if you're that paranoid. Better yet, if you're doing something illegal, don't use the net.

okyoureabeast · #14 07-07-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by powerpig

First off, this was a paid for press release from ixquick. Secondly, just use a anonymous proxy service if you're that paranoid. Better yet, if you're doing something illegal, don't use the net.

Good and bad idea.

An anonymous proxy server can be monitored. The traffic can be sniffed.

Personally, I take steps to safe guard my privacy but there is only so much one can do before it becomes paranoia.

If some alphabet soup agency really had some interest in me for whatever reason no amount of encryption would protect me.

Then again, Mr. Powerpig, you are apart of the DoD. For all we know you could be a James Bond Benz driving secret agent!

HuskyMan · #15 07-07-2010, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by okyoureabeast

Good and bad idea.

An anonymous proxy server can be monitored. The traffic can be sniffed.

Personally, I take steps to safe guard my privacy but there is only so much one can do before it becomes paranoia.

If some alphabet soup agency really had some interest in me for whatever reason no amount of encryption would protect me.

Then again, Mr. Powerpig, you are apart of the DoD. For all we know you could be a James Bond Benz driving secret agent!

ummmmmm, powerpig? sounds like an alias to me.....