Tort lawyers run amuck

[Botnst]

Police have told residents to stop putting wire mesh on their garden shed windows – because they could be sued if a burglar is injured.
By Daily Telegraph Reporter 9:00AM GMT 12 Feb 2011
118 Comments

A spate of thefts in several towns and villages in Kent and Surrey over the past few months led to many householders taking action to protect their property.

Some have been warned by police that using wire mesh to reinforce shed windows was ''dangerous’’ and could lead to criminals claiming compensation if they ''hurt themselves’’.

Thieves target sheds to steal lawnmowers, power drills, bicycles and a variety of DIY tools.

Thomas Cooper, of Tatsfield, Surrey, used wire mesh to protect three of his garden sheds after two break-ins over the past four years. He decided to take action after reports of a rise in garden raids in the area.

Mr Cooper said: “I reinforced my shed windows with wire mesh, but was told by the police I had to be very careful because thieves can actually sue you if they get hurt.

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''It is ridiculous that the law protects them even though they are breaking it.”
Last month Samantha Cullum, a mother-of-three, of Brasted, near Sevenoaks in Kent, had her whole shed stolen when thieves lifted it on to a lorry.

She said: “We had some tools stolen every now and again, but this time they took the entire shed – I couldn’t believe it.”

Dave Bishop, of Tatsfield, said: “The law is so stupid, and you never know what decision judges are going to make. People do get fed up with these people trying to help themselves to things which you have worked hard to gather together.”

Pc John Lee, a crime reduction officer for Tandridge, said: “We are constantly advising home owners to protect their property and the contents of their shed or garage, however, a commonsense approach needs to be taken.

“To properly secure your sheds, Surrey Police strongly advises people to invest in items such as good-quality locks and bolts, and not to resort to homemade devices, as this could cause injury.”

A police source added: “Homemade devices can cause injury and there have been cases where criminals have sued for injuries they have suffered while committing a criminal act.

''We are advising people to do whatever they can to protect their property, but wire mesh is not one of the suggestions we would make.”

[jt20]

what a friggin' mesh that is.


I can't imagine any municipality siding with the trespasser unless wire mesh was illegal or trespassing was considered a legitimate business endeavor.

[aklim]

Originally Posted by Botnst

A police source added: “Homemade devices can cause injury and there have been cases where criminals have sued for injuries they have suffered while committing a criminal act.

Something I don't understand. Why would a lawyer get involved in this case? Only reason is to make money. IIRC, the lawyer makes money only when the perp wins and he takes a percentage of it. Say he takes 30% of the winnings.

Lawyer tells the homeowner or insurance company "In the past, awards for this sort of thing have been about $100K. If we fight in court, it costs you $50K. If you lose, your total cost is $150K. If you pay me $80K, I'll drop the suit and we disappear."

How can this work? Well the jury has to give the award. If not, the lawyer cannot cite a presidence. If he cannot show a presidence and doesn't get an award, he gets nothing.

So who does this all hinge on? The 12 morons on the jury that give away "free money" in the "little guy's favor".

[aklim]

Originally Posted by jt20

what a friggin' mesh that is.


I can't imagine any municipality siding with the trespasser unless wire mesh was illegal or trespassing was considered a legitimate business endeavor.

Not up to the municipality. It is up to the 12 idiots that give away money

[Fulcrum525]

Originally Posted by Botnst

“To properly secure your sheds, Surrey Police strongly advises people to invest in items such as good-quality locks and bolts, and not to resort to homemade devices, as this could cause injury.”

Yeah, cause that will keep them out

[Hatterasguy]

Wow I'm so glad I don't live in the UK, around here they would be in more danger of getting hurt by running into my .45 caliber bullet than a reinforced shed window.

[Jorn]

That's why back in Holland you always have laying next to your baseball bat a ball and a glove at your bedside...

[jdc1244]

I can't imagine any municipality siding with the trespasser unless wire mesh was illegal or trespassing was considered a legitimate business endeavor.

One has nothing to do with the other; you’re confusing civil and criminal law.

Wow I'm so glad I don't live in the UK, around here they would be in more danger of getting hurt by running into my .45 caliber bullet than a reinforced shed window.

Well, that would work here and in Texas – not sure about the Constitution State; check all local laws before defending yourself.

[Fulcrum525]

Originally Posted by Jorn

That's why back in Holland you always have laying next to your baseball bat a ball and a glove at your bedside...

haha, those late night dreams about baseball just pop up sometimes and you can't get back to sleep without playing

[Hatterasguy]

Originally Posted by Jorn

That's why back in Holland you always have laying next to your baseball bat a ball and a glove at your bedside...

That works, in certain states you want a knife or a very real looking airsoft pistol handy. (also make sure he is dead) Something for the perp to carry if they didn't happen to bring their own.

[Hatterasguy]

Originally Posted by jdc1244

Well, that would work here and in Texas – not sure about the Constitution State; check all local laws before defending yourself.

In CT they have to be in the house, in TX you can open fire as soon as they are on your property.

Refer to my above post about a knife/airsoft gun.

[aklim]

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

That works, in certain states you want a knife or a very real looking airsoft pistol handy. Something for the perp to carry if they didn't happen to bring their own.

Oh, I get it. You want to give them a fighting chance.

[POS]

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

In CT they have to be in the house, in TX you can open fire as soon as they are on your property.

Refer to my above post about a knife/airsoft gun.

Most of us have guns in the house too; gotta be pretty stupid to break into a house in Texas - but it does happen.

[layback40]

Its a 1 mile drive down a narrow track with no way of turning around, no other way on or off the property, you can hear the dogs barking from the closed front gate. Never had an uninvited visitor.

[el presidente]

My attorneys advised me to not have a shed.