conversations and opinions on the rising cost of fuel - Page 5 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

WDBCB20 · #61 03-05-2011, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by newtodiesel

Trying to survive on just the BARE essentials and then having fuel go up this much this fast is difficult to bear, then food prices are going thru the roof too. I think I am going to have to plant a garden this year and grow my own food, might have to get a few chickens too, bet my city neighbors will love that!

The food from your garden can be better in taste, nutrition, and freshness than the vast mono-culture, petrochemically derived synthetic fertilizer fertilized (which kills off the natural soil ecology), marinated in fungi/herbi/pesticides (more petrochemicals), ""food grade"" waxed, slave wage harvested, trucked over 2000 miles, bright and shiny, refrigerator aged, supermarket produce.

Not to mention the exercise and soul satisfaction of interacting productively with nature and the slimming effects of a sparse harvest

As for chickens look into Muscovy ducks instead -best eatin' duck and egg. Free - feral populations currently overpopulate South Florida.

barry123400 · #62 03-05-2011, 09:31 AM

If you are concerned and not getting the average fuel milage per gallon. Giving your old diesel a tune up may displace some of the increasing fuel costs. On a world wide front we have been fortunate to have lower fuel prices at the pump than many countries.

Actually because of the infastructure costs taxwise to support this are not factored in I wonder what we really pay for fuel?

Kurt Smith · #63 03-05-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Army

Here in Holland

Diesel is now 1.38 euros...

...a litre - so that's 5.23 euros for one US gallon.

At today's exchange rate that is $7.20

@ Craig - Nobody here has stopped using their car yet.

Yeah but the constituents got something for their taxes. Trains that work.

Kurt Smith · #64 03-05-2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Colorado220

They are no where near overpaid, underpaid for the crap they have to deal with.

I am a crappy writer. I meant I think Fox pundits are overpaid, whatever they are getting paid they are over paid.

newtodiesel · #65 03-05-2011, 09:07 PM

I'm keepin my foot off the floor and that is helpin!
Plus it helps that work is about 5 minutes away

layback40 · #66 03-06-2011, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurt Smith

Are you a teacher? Fox also said teachers making over 50k are overpaid. I think they are overpaid myself.

This is interesting. An inexperienced graduate teacher in some states of Australia is paid just under $60k, an experienced teacher over $75k.
Looks like there may be an influx of American teachers down here soon.

#67 03-06-2011, 08:46 AM

I was curious so I looked for average teacher salaries in the US:

http://teacherportal.com/teacher-salaries-by-state

Is this correct? I would have guessed that these figures would be about twice. These salaries are ridiculously low.

Dee8go · #68 03-06-2011, 08:54 AM

I think more expensive fuel sucks.

Hatterasguy · #69 03-06-2011, 11:10 AM

It really sucks its going to hurt the economy when its just starting to recover. I think it will peak around $4 than fall since this current rise is driven by pure speculation.

I'm thinking about getting a natural gas truck for my next one, it would only cost about $1.80 a gallon to fill and I don't go anywhere.

Hatterasguy · #70 03-06-2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD

Exactly. You don't see too many people commuting in V8's in europe. They're driving 2 liter diesels that get 60+mpg.

The other side is that people feel "entitled" to be able to live wherever they want, including way out in the country/suburbs for no good reason, and then burn 10 gallons a day commuting to and from this location. What a waste of time and resources. I live 7 miles from my workplace, and would never accept a job more than 15-20 miles away absolute max. Fuel could be $10 a gallon and its not going to hurt those who live well within their means, and don't drive SUV's 150 miles a day to work. I currently only have to fuel my 300SD barely once a month. If it costs $50, 100, or $150 to do that.....isn't going to make a lot of difference because I am well within my means in all areas of how I live. Most people seem to struggle with this. And I am not exactly in a "high income" bracket either. Fox and friends republican world recently said $250k is "almost poverty in this country". Well, I make less than 1/5th that....and I seem to be doing just fine....

Moral of the story is, people will bend to the will of the fuel supply and prices unless a cheap good alternative appears. People will move closer to work, more will telecommute, SUV's and Pickups driven as mere transportation will disappear. The earth will be a cleaner nicer place as a result. And drilling endless holes in wildlife refuge areas to get more oil does not solve the issue, it merely extends it.

I hope you keep feeling happy and smug when the economy tanks and they lay you off because of fuel prices.

Txjake · #71 03-06-2011, 12:16 PM

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The other side is that people feel "entitled" to be able to live wherever they want, including way out in the country/suburbs for no good reason, and then burn 10 gallons a day commuting to and from this location. What a waste of time and resources. I live 7 miles from my workplace, and would never accept a job more than 15-20 miles away absolute max.
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Uh, in America, we ARE entitled to live wherever we want, and to commute to wherever our job is. Are you suggesting resettlement of the cities, perhaps by government edict?

Skid Row Joe · #72 03-06-2011, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by roundout

If people would stop talking about prices going up and the news media would stop blathering about prices going up, speculators would stop driving prices up. The more people fear rising prices, the more prices rise. There's no doubt that there's some uncertainty coming out of the Middle East, but most of the increase in price of oil futures falls squarely on the shoulders of speculators trying to make a buck. You'd think they'd have learned their lesson after 2008.

I remember wanting to go buy a couple 50 gallon drums and fill them with B100 at $5/gal and my dad told me not to waste my time. Everybody was convinced we were screwed and fuel was going to go $10/gal, European style. Maybe we'd hit peak oil. Blah blah blah. Couple months later fuel was under $3/gal.

That's not true. Unless you have evidence to support any of it, I believe you're wrong.

The reason fuel prices are going up is because of this country's stance on non-drilling. The Obama ban on drilling is what is costing you at the pump.

Skid Row Joe · #73 03-06-2011, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dagObx

Roundout- you hit the nail right on the head!! According to many sources, there's plenty of oil available & no one has said anything about reducing supplies (other than that idiot in Libya). This price spike is driven solely by the cursed speculators.

Again, that's just NOT true. If Obama would allow drilling in our OWN country, prices would drop to the floor. That's the reason prices are so high, and getting higher.

#74 03-06-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Txjake

Uh, in America, we ARE entitled to live wherever we want, and to commute to wherever our job is. Are you suggesting resettlement of the cities, perhaps by government edict?

That won't be necessary, americans will move themselves, change jobs, and/or buy more reasonable vehicles when they can no longer afford the commute that they are "entitled" to.

Skid Row Joe · #75 03-06-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD

The other side is that people feel "entitled" to be able to live wherever they want, including way out in the country/suburbs for no good reason, and then burn 10 gallons a day commuting to and from this location. What a waste of time and resources. I live 7 miles from my workplace, and would never accept a job more than 15-20 miles away absolute max.

What does it matter to you; where I live, what I drive, where I work, and how much money I spend on as many gallons of fuel as I want to buy?

Where does your thinking come from in trying to impose your lifestyle on other Americans?