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Charles Koch to Friedrich Hayek: Use Social Security
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Hell, I'm opposed to social security but after paying in for 40 years, damn straight I'll take it.
I'm still going to support any political movement taht wants it privatized. I'd prefer not to saddle my grandchildren with that downward-spiralling boondoggle. |
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Oh. So it's ok to be against it and still collect. That means that those of us who are going to collect it get to get rid of it and thumb our noses at those who may have paid into it but won't get anything....cool!
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They have my money, damned right I want it back.
You present it as a binary choice. Will you not open you mind to other possibilities? |
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Sure. What are they?
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You're a daisy if you do. __________________________________ 84 Euro 240D 4spd. 220.5k sold ![]() 04 Honda Element AWD 1985 F150 XLT 4x4, 351W with 270k miles, hay hauler 1997 Suzuki Sidekick 4x4 1993 Toyota 4wd Pickup 226K and counting |
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Consider it a roundabout way of recovering stolen property.
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Why could SS not slowly be phased out? As in 10-12 years? This huge number of Baby Boomers is going to go the way of the dodo, and fewer of the population will remain. They will require less money as a whole.
Bring SS back to its original intent. Support only the orphans and widows. Not as a retirement account for the general public. |
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"Unambiguous success" is a peculiar assertion, since a sizable portion of voters believe otherwise and it is on a trajectory of failure.
It adds nothing to teh deficit because of a dishonest slight-of-hand in which congress accepts the money from payers and then write an IOU into a special account and then spends the money. How much money is in the social security account? |
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Trajectory of failure? That's a peculiar assertion, since a sizable portion, as it just about 100%, of the experts believe otherwise. Quote:
As for the balance in the account, I don't know. Social Security is pretty much pay as you go. |
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The most telling feature in the account is Koch's apparent unwillingness to help Mr. Hayek should he run into medical problems in the USA since private charity is the alternative to public charity in the mind of the libertarian.
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Maybe it's just me, I don't know. But I never heard of these Kock Brothers until the leftyish media commentators began trying to tie them to something. Hell, they maybe crooks, I don't know. They seem to be an important source of money for rightwingers running for office. So what?
Concerning social security (and medicare), I deeply resent the charade of not including their cost in my total tax receipts. To me, they're a tax. Let's say I guarantee your retirement if you'll pay me a monthly portion of your income. So you pay me and I take that money and buy a ne kitchen appliance and write an IOU which I stick in a safety deposit box on which I have to pay monthly rent. That's social security. |
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If paying soc sec is a tax then receiving it must be charity.
Its more like an insurance policy since you are guaranteed so much a month with no knowledge if you will live long enough to receive it or not. I'm gonna go file for mine today. ![]() Seriously.
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