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elchivito · #91 06-10-2012, 12:11 PM

You are correct that I posted about race mixing between spaniards and indigenous mexicans or mixed blooded people, however I don't believe I mentioned skin color. No time to dig through posts so I might be mistaken but don't think so.
Your "proof" that latinos want to be whiter is proof that various media want latinos to be light skinned, not that most latinos want that. There is no question that light skin in Mexico has been traditionally viewed as somehow more attractive. All you have to do is watch the telenovelas on GalaVision to see that.
In this country, light skinned blacks probably fared better historically. I have read that lighter skinned slaves were often the ones who got moved to positions within the household. In my opinion, the attitude about lighter skin on the part of latinos as well as blacks is an attitude born of racism. Dark people don't feel more comfortable being light, WHITE people are more comfortable around light skinned dark people. Making the blanket statement that most blacks and latinos want lighter skin is, in my opinion, not so much a statement of fact but rather a statement of bigotry. Sammy Sosa? Really? You coulda used Michael Jackson...

Jim B. · #92 06-10-2012, 01:02 PM

flymehomenow · #93 06-10-2012, 02:16 PM

Who cares what color skin the President has...at the end of the day he is

just a man. As far as being a natural born American, I don't necessarily

subscribe to that belief. I have doubts, but accept the reality of the

mistake. What can I do about it? I am not a lib, progressive, socialist,

marxist, or communist. This crap that is spewed by the liberal media that

anybody who does not like, support, or vote for Obama in 2012 is a racist.

So what if he is the first United States' first black president? That does not

give him the right to be a dictator, given an automatic pass for a second

term just because he is black, without proper prior vetting, and a failure to

the U.S. people, its economy and America's freedoms and way its of life.

So what am I going to do about the President? I am going to vote for

other man, a Republican, Mitt Romney in November, therefore retaining my

American right to free speech and to protect the Constitution and its Bill of

Rights.

elchivito · #94 06-10-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by flymehomenow

Who cares what color skin the President has...at the end of the day he is

just a man. As far as being a natural born American, I don't necessarily

subscribe to that belief. I have doubts, but accept the reality of the

mistake. What can I do about it? I am not a lib, progressive, socialist,

marxist, or communist. This crap that is spewed by the liberal media that

anybody who does not like, support, or vote for Obama in 2012 is a racist.

So what if he is the first United States' first black president? That does not

give him the right to be a dictator, given an automatic pass for a second

term just because he is black, without proper prior vetting, and a failure to

the U.S. people, its economy and America's freedoms and way its of life.

So what am I going to do about the President? I am going to vote for

other man, a Republican, Mitt Romney in November, therefore retaining my

American right to free speech and to protect the Constitution and its Bill of

Rights.

So, who exactly in the liberal media says if you don't like the President you're a racist? I haven't heard that. I HAVE heard, and agree with the opinion that some people will never give Obama the credit he is due simply because he is black. Some people. There are many others who don't like his politics but not for racial reasons. I'm not crazy about a lot of his politics. At one point I called him a pussy, here in fact. A pussy for failing to stand up to the do-nothing teaparty zombies in congress who were opposing him at every turn, even on points that had originally been Republican ideas, simply because he supported them. I called him a pussy because for a long time he stood by and watched the idiot democrats in congress give away the farm to the tea-zombies.
In what way has this president exhibited the qualities of a dictator? Is your definition of dictator simply someone whose politics you disagree with? Details please, or your argument is just so much noise.
The rest of your sentence about him being a dictator doesn't make any sense. Who thinks he deserves a "pass" to a second term? I'd wonder if you think he should have a CHANCE at that second term, and I'd bet the answer is NO.

Voting is a great way to protect the constitution, in that we agree. I'll be voting too.

flymehomenow · #95 06-10-2012, 02:57 PM

Sharpton of MSNBC. Do you really believe anything that he says?

Dictatorial for all of his "executive orders" and his unelected czars passing
regulations in the avoidance of the Congress.

Poor economic policies....get government out of the way of private markets.

Ed Schultz of MSNBC who accuses Tea Partiers of racists.

Tea Party members are the best thing to happen to this country. They believe in fiscal responsibility and smaller government.

Tell me one thing that the government that the government has ever produced or manufactured. Name me just one.

Obamacare. I suppose that you think that the government should interfere with the free market, interstate commerce, and violation of our right to privacy?

Don't you dare blame the Tea Party and Republicans in Congress for not advancing BHO's union loving socialist agenda. Look no further than the Democratic Senate who refuse to even bring "common sense" legislation to a vote because of Harry Reid.

Obama is a hard head placard carrying Bill Ayers loving, idealogical flip flopper, card carrying New Party socialist from Chicago.

You have a right to vote the same as I. We'll agree to disagree!

Honus · #96 06-10-2012, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by flymehomenow

....Dictatorial for all of his "executive orders" and his unelected czars passing
regulations in the avoidance of the Congress....

That's a complete fantasy.

elchivito · #97 06-10-2012, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by flymehomenow

Sharpton of MSNBC. Do you really believe anything that he says?

Dictatorial for all of his "executive orders" and his unelected czars passing
regulations in the avoidance of the Congress.

Poor economic policies....get government out of the way of private markets.

Ed Schultz of MSNBC who accuses Tea Partiers of racists.

Tea Party members are the best thing to happen to this country. They believe in fiscal responsibility and smaller government.

Tell me one thing that the government that the government has ever produced or manufactured. Name me just one.

Obamacare. I suppose that you think that the government should interfere with the free market, interstate commerce, and violation of our right to privacy?

Don't you dare blame the Tea Party and Republicans in Congress for not advancing BHO's union loving socialist agenda. Look no further than the Democratic Senate who refuse to even bring "common sense" legislation to a vote because of Harry Reid.

Obama is a hard head placard carrying Bill Ayers loving, idealogical flip flopper, card carrying New Party socialist from Chicago.

You have a right to vote the same as I. We'll agree to disagree!

Bush issued a total of 291 EOs 2001 thru 2009, or about 32 per year on average. Obama has issued 127 so far, for about 32 per year. Your point?

What private markets has Obama put government in the way of? Careful if you say drilling.....

I will dare to accuse anyone of anything I happen to see happening thank you very much, you're the one who dare not tell me what to do.

Your assertions are straight out of tea party forwarded emails, are without merit or backup, and are born of hatred for someone who isn't "like you"and desperation; you know you have a weak candidate that nobody is really behind, you further know that if you had the candidate of your dreams, some nutball like Santorum you'd be even further in the hole. Get your bug-out bag ready, the S is going to HTF come November.

cmbdiesel · #98 06-10-2012, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MTUpower

I do not believe in the birther reality but BHO and his people are pretty effn stupid to have not caught this. Stupid enough they should be looked at a bit differently by everyone who votes. If anyone did this- much less a Senator- I'd think they were a few bricks short of a full load.

Could it even compare to http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/santorum.com???

How could you seek the office of president without securing the url of your last name?

cmbdiesel · #99 06-10-2012, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

No problem voting for someone slimy enough to cheat on their spouse huh? Talk about a statement of slimy dishonesty. Cheating on ones spouse is as slimey as a liar can get.

When did we start talking about Gingrich??

Pooka · #**100** 06-11-2012, 02:43 AM

I have talked to a few authors. Only one of them was able to make their publisher stick to the facts on their bio.

The Author writes the bio and the Publisher, who wants to sell books, rewrites it to be more commercial. If it is close to the truth then that's good enough.

The rule is: When the fiction is more interesting that the fact you always go with the fiction.

cmac2012 · #**101** 06-11-2012, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MTUpower

What a load of crap except for the motive part. Tell me you've been to Kenya and understand the sentiment of locals to white people back in the 50's and 60's and that they looked down on whites.

You have no idea if that was the case- you are just making **** up now. Most black people do not want to have darker skin- they want lighter skin. Most latinos want lighter skin. Most latinos and blacks want to live and associate with lighter skinned people.

Do you really believe that a hospital birth in Kenya cost alot of money? Are you kidding me? Milk almost came out my nose reading your nonsense.
The motive part is truthful- why would an agent who knows little to nothing about a client come up with a place like Kenya as a birthplace of someone? What motive did they have to make this up?

You really haven't been around as much as you think you have.

Light skin will generally gain one more status in some black communities - it's a big deal in the Caribbean if I can believe what I read - in the US the phrase 'high yallers' is sometimes used by blacks to describe light skinned blacks who assume greater status. That doesn't mean black people welcome white seed or ovaries into their midst. If you're jet black, the possible introduction of white genes into your immediate family will do little to exalt you. More likely the reverse.

I can't find it now but I read an account of the Senior Obama's Kenyan family's views of his new white wife and approval wasn't part of it. He had Kenyan wives with children that needed feeding. Going with the white wife was like turning his back on his community.

If you think white guys react badly to seeing a cute white lady with a black guy, try being a white guy with a cute black lady in a black neighborhood. White women are slightly more welcome - seen a bit as taking what whitey wants - but they are still looked down on as needy dilettantes by most of the community in my experience.

Imagine everything you think you know about how a white family would react to a black person being brought in as the spouse or fiance to one of their family members. The response of a black family to the same scenario flipped will be very similar, based on my experience, and my conversations with black people.

A childbirth in Kenya wouldn't cost you much if you flew in with your pregnant wife with major US $ in tow, but if you're a local, you bet there are costs.

As for the agent, being born in Kenya is exotic and his name is exotic. Agents want to create buzz.

elchivito · #**102** 06-11-2012, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Pooka

I have talked to a few authors. Only one of them was able to make their publisher stick to the facts on their bio.

The Author writes the bio and the Publisher, who wants to sell books, rewrites it to be more commercial. If it is close to the truth then that's good enough.

The rule is: When the fiction is more interesting that the fact you always go with the fiction.

good point

flymehomenow · #**103** 06-11-2012, 04:42 PM

....and you probably think the 1%ers' are bad, being successful is bad, and $5 trillion in government debt is good. Go take a bath and get a job, oh that's right...you're waiting for the government to provide you a bath and a job!

elchivito · #**104** 06-11-2012, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by flymehomenow

....and you probably think the 1%ers' are bad, being successful is bad, and $5 trillion in government debt is good. Go take a bath and get a job, oh that's right...you're waiting for the government to provide you a bath and a job!

???

Dudesky · #**105** 06-11-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

I would as well.

That said I think Obama has done as good or better a job in everything except the economy perhaps... but I think the economy was much further down the toilet when Obama took office.....there was also the matter of two overseas wars.

Two overseas wars Bush dealt with, why it different for the Black Jesus?

Unless one was gay or works for Goldman Sachs, I see no improvement to crow about.