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Dubyagee 12-28-2012 06:00 PM

I prefer the snap of a 40.

Benz Dr. 12-29-2012 01:08 AM

Less than two weeks and it's aready back to normal. I'm not sure there is an answer.

jplinville 12-29-2012 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3073889)
But dude.... the neocons, 'conservatives' and basically anyone on the right, have been chiseling away at all school funding for decades.

Prove it. Make a political hack comment like that, back it up with truth. If you were to really investigate the problem, you'll find that it isn't at the Federal level, but at how each individual school district manages their finances. I've been involved in two different school districts in my adult life, and can easily show how wasted money is the cause for begging for more money...lack of funding is rarely the culprit.

elchivito 12-29-2012 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesel911 (Post 3073903)
If the it is a case that the Slide is not going back far enough it maybe someone makes a reduced tension Recoil Spring for target Shooting (I don't know what Gun you are using so I don't know if it is any sort of competition.)
A lower power Recoil Spring might not strip the Bullets out of the Magazine easily. But, if it worked it would be a cheap fix.
If you did that you would also need to remember not to shot the full power loads in it.

Install a Muzzle Brake? they decrease the Muzzle flip (sort of levering your Hand and Wrist) upwards; and the Brake directs the push of the Gun to a more straighter backwards push. I have no experience with them.

A more expensive option is if you could convert it to 9mm.

A cheap but harder way to would be to lift some Weights or other excersizes to build up the Muscle Mass in your wrists and Arms to dampen the reciol.

It was a Beretta 96F. Not exactly a tupperware pistol. I sold it. .40 is not my cuppa tea. After a lifetime of hand milking goats and cows and team roping steers my wrist strength is not an issue. Yeah, I could do all that stuff, but why? Give me a .45, Colt or ACP no matter. Any day.

t walgamuth 12-29-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jplinville (Post 3074237)
Prove it. Make a political hack comment like that, back it up with truth. If you were to really investigate the problem, you'll find that it isn't at the Federal level, but at how each individual school district manages their finances. I've been involved in two different school districts in my adult life, and can easily show how wasted money is the cause for begging for more money...lack of funding is rarely the culprit.

Its true the R's, in general, are in favor of cutting public education, demonizing teachers in public education, promoting privatising education, and breaking the teachers unions....I can speak with experience about Indiana and from what I see in the news it certainly appears they are doing the same everywhere they can.

Diesel911 12-29-2012 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3073889)
But dude.... the neocons, 'conservatives' and basically anyone on the right, have been chiseling away at all school funding for decades.

What I was attempting to show is that the present Administration that got re-elected was quick to speak up about a Gun Ban but when they had the chance to do better also short changed School Security.

The Reupblicans did the same but are less likely to look to a Gun Ban as a slolution to School Security.

I am supposed to be a Democrat; but what I see is that the Republicans want to cut the Federal Funding and leave that Funding up to the States.
That could be a good or bad thing depending on the State you live in.

If you live in a small State that does not have much revenue it would hurt education let a lone School Security.

Txjake 12-31-2012 09:41 AM

virtually every state has a cash cow that they could siphon funds from to pay for public school security: the public university athletic system. Let schools build fewer new fieldhouses and stadiums and kick a little money back to help kids survive.

Private schools could include security costs in the tuition feees

t walgamuth 12-31-2012 09:43 AM

I believe you will find that tapping athletic funds is more of a third rail than cutting SS and Medicare. it won't happen.

Txjake 12-31-2012 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3075100)
I believe you will find that tapping athletic funds is more of a third rail than cutting SS and Medicare. it won't happen.

quite the shame. it adds nothing to the intellectual experience at a university and should at least have some responsibility in helping fund school security or other projects. Its hard to beleive that so much money is made by schools in perpetuating what are basically children's games. the rabid fascination with sports in America perplexes me.

oldsinner111 12-31-2012 10:33 AM

I'm a Democrat,and I approve the 2nd admenment

cmbdiesel 12-31-2012 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jplinville (Post 3074237)
Prove it. Make a political hack comment like that, back it up with truth. If you were to really investigate the problem, you'll find that it isn't at the Federal level, but at how each individual school district manages their finances. I've been involved in two different school districts in my adult life, and can easily show how wasted money is the cause for begging for more money...lack of funding is rarely the culprit.

Then show it...

Or is this a 'My anecdotal evidence is better than your anecdotal evidence....';)

Agreed that there is waste and poor spending decisions, but with that in mind, how can you propose new spending requirements to be paid for by savings from existing allocated money? Isn't that the height of wishful thinking?
I mean, I would love to see it work.... but how bout we try to eliminate the waste and get the academics properly funded and operational before piling on more costs?


Maybe you missed the plank in the platforms of Reagan and Dole to completely abolish the DoED.
Or the GOP mandate to their candidates to promote the dismantling of DoED
"The Federal government has no constitutional authority to be involved in school curricula or to control jobs in the market place. This is why we will abolish the Department of Education, end federal meddling in our schools, and promote family choice at all levels of learning."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Education

Seems like funding for schools has been falling....
New School Year Brings More Cuts in State Funding for Schools — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

And it makes a difference
Analysis: How Much States Spend on Their Kids Really Does Matter - NationalJournal.com

cmbdiesel 12-31-2012 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesel911 (Post 3074465)
What I was attempting to show is that the present Administration that got re-elected was quick to speak up about a Gun Ban but when they had the chance to do better also short changed School Security.

The Reupblicans did the same but are less likely to look to a Gun Ban as a slolution to School Security.

I am supposed to be a Democrat; but what I see is that the Republicans want to cut the Federal Funding and leave that Funding up to the States.
That could be a good or bad thing depending on the State you live in.

If you live in a small State that does not have much revenue it would hurt education let a lone School Security.

I just haven't seen the present administration say anything about a gun ban....
Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel911 (Post 3074465)
"speak up about a Gun Ban"

....
Can you suggest somewhere I can find information regarding this"Obama Gun Ban"....

Not sure what those Social Security apples are doing in this box of Gun Control oranges....;)

Leaving all education funding up to the states has many problems.
Utah will not spend money, despite poor academic achievement, just ask JP.
How well will their kids do if a bunch of the small pie gets reallocated to gun toting security?

cmbdiesel 12-31-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Txjake (Post 3075099)
virtually every state has a cash cow that they could siphon funds from to pay for public school security: the public university athletic system. Let schools build fewer new fieldhouses and stadiums and kick a little money back to help kids survive.

Private schools could include security costs in the tuition feees

Lots of those cash cows have already been led to slaughter.

Agreed about the athletic system...

Private schools can absolutely do that, and I'm sure many already do.

cmbdiesel 12-31-2012 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by oldsinner111 (Post 3075133)
I'm a Democrat,and I approve the 2nd admenment

Many dems do, despite the delusional ramblings from the far right....;)

pj67coll 12-31-2012 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3075167)
Many dems do, despite the delusional ramblings from the far right....;)

Really? So after Feinstein and her nauseating fellow travelers get done with their latest gun ban I'll still be able to go on down to the local gun shop and pick up an AR15 will I?

- Peter.

elchivito 12-31-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3075167)
Many dems do, despite the delusional ramblings from the far right....;)

The right might just be horrified to know how many of us lefties are packing heat. :D

pj67coll 12-31-2012 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 3075185)
The right might just be horrified to know how many of us lefties are packing heat. :D

Only as long as your OverLords allow you to :D

- peter.

elchivito 12-31-2012 01:03 PM

Overlords? You mean banks, insurance companies and the military-entertainment complex? Psssht, I ain't askeerda them boys.

pj67coll 12-31-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 3075196)
Overlords? You mean banks, insurance companies and the military-entertainment complex? Psssht, I ain't askeerda them boys.

Nope. I mean your Lords and Masters in government who know whats best for you and what activities they will allow you to indulge in.

- Peter.

elchivito 12-31-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pj67coll (Post 3075206)
Nope. I mean your Lords and Masters in government who know whats best for you and what activities they will allow you to indulge in.

- Peter.

Not scared o' them guys either. Seems like you might be though. Relax.

cmbdiesel 12-31-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pj67coll (Post 3075183)
Really? So after Feinstein and her nauseating fellow travelers get done with their latest gun ban I'll still be able to go on down to the local gun shop and pick up an AR15 will I?

- Peter.

Maybe you could point out where the 2nd mentions AR-15's....:rolleyes:

You just keep lumping everyone who doesn't agree entirely with your position as gun grabbing liberals, and you could not be further from the truth.

cmbdiesel 12-31-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 3075185)
The right might just be horrified to know how many of us lefties are packing heat. :D

I knew an old guy out west who was a staunch Republican, ex-county sheriff who told the story of how he and the hippies who had been filling his little mountain town ended up becoming friends.
One situation had escalated to the point where the old timers come out packing...
Then the hippies broke out their weapons too, and all the old guys were suitably impressed and they had a real good old time comparing their guns.;)
After that they were all buddies and the town was a better place, and all because the hippies had serious guns, something the old timers never suspected.

pj67coll 12-31-2012 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3075264)
Maybe you could point out where the 2nd mentions AR-15's....:rolleyes:

You just keep lumping everyone who doesn't agree entirely with your position as gun grabbing liberals, and you could not be further from the truth.

It mentions it directly where it says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. When you illogically ban one type of gun under the pretense of "being reasonable" there is no logical reason why you cannot ban all guns given that the effect of an AR15 is identical to that of any other semi auto rifle that is functionally equivalent.

Therefore while you don't think you "need" one and are perfectly happy to assume "they" will only deprive others of their rights and that this will not affect you because you are a reasonable gun owner who doesn't see the need for such weapons, that is a logical fallacy.

You assume reason on the other side of the debate where none exists.

- Peter.

Jorn 12-31-2012 06:32 PM

Hippies and guns....

http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/u...sb85a4e67.jpeg

davidmash 12-31-2012 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jplinville (Post 3074237)
Prove it. Make a political hack comment like that, back it up with truth. If you were to really investigate the problem, you'll find that it isn't at the Federal level, but at how each individual school district manages their finances. I've been involved in two different school districts in my adult life, and can easily show how wasted money is the cause for begging for more money...lack of funding is rarely the culprit.

Texas cut education by $5.4 billion in 2012.

davidmash 12-31-2012 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Txjake (Post 3075128)
quite the shame. it adds nothing to the intellectual experience at a university and should at least have some responsibility in helping fund school security or other projects. Its hard to beleive that so much money is made by schools in perpetuating what are basically children's games. the rabid fascination with sports in America perplexes me.

I'm a 100% with you but part of the problem is a lot of the athletic departments especially at the college level generate a butt load of cash for the school.

Come to Texas with talk like yours and they will run your ass out on a rail. Sports is the holy grail here. When I first moved here I was surprised that the local news covered high school sports on TV. We had a mother out here several years back kill another mother (or attempt ... I for get which) to get her daughter on the cheer squad. This is a *****ed up state when it comes to sports ( and a few other things).

Jorn 12-31-2012 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by davidmash (Post 3075293)
Texas cut education by $5.4 billion in 2012.

Teaching the earth is only 6500 years old cuts out a lot of history and science classes. :D

MS Fowler 12-31-2012 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorn (Post 3075298)
Teaching the earth is only 6500 years old cuts out a lot of history and science classes. :D

How much "history" is cut out?

Maybe some "pre-history", but I doubt if much true history is eliminated.

Jorn 12-31-2012 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 3075309)
How much "history" is cut out?

Maybe some "pre-history", but I doubt if much true history is eliminated.

That's why I had a :D Mr party pooper. :P

Dubyagee 12-31-2012 09:21 PM

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/01/5ezymu4u.jpg

Mike Murrell 12-31-2012 09:38 PM

James Anderson nailed it.

cmbdiesel 01-01-2013 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jorn (Post 3075298)
Teaching the earth is only 6500 years old cuts out a lot of history and science classes. :D

:D:D

cmbdiesel 01-01-2013 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 3075309)
How much "history" is cut out?

Maybe some "pre-history", but I doubt if much true history is eliminated.

Roughly 4.5 billion years,give or take.

History is history, you cannot pick and choose.

Besides, do you really want kids growing up ignorant and ill-informed?
Isn't that part of the larger problem?

cmbdiesel 01-01-2013 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dubyagee (Post 3075335)
[IMG]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/01/5ezymu4u.jpg[MG]

What a truckload of 5hite.

cmbdiesel 01-01-2013 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Murrell (Post 3075342)
James Anderson nailed it.

It..... that's what you call your sister?

Dubyagee 01-01-2013 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3075397)
It..... that's what you call your sister?

Really? Pic must have struck a nerve


iPhone 4

cmbdiesel 01-01-2013 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dubyagee (Post 3075398)
Really? Pic must have struck a nerve


iPhone 4

Nope. I rarely allow my nerves to be affected by tripe and offal.

You, however, I have come to expect more from.;)

Dubyagee 01-01-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3075401)
Nope. I rarely allow my nerves to be affected by tripe and offal.

You, however, I have come to expect more from.;)

The sister remark states otherwise.

Sorry to lower your expectations of an online persona.


iPhone 4

cmbdiesel 01-01-2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dubyagee (Post 3075439)
The sister remark states otherwise.

Sorry to lower your expectations of an online persona.


iPhone 4

The sister comment was intended to be funny, but don't worry, I got my infraction. ;)

Well, it's too late now for that.

Sad the way some get all bunched and run off and tell....

cmbdiesel 01-01-2013 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Murrell (Post 3075342)
James Anderson nailed it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3075397)
It..... that's what you call your sister?

Mike, my apologies if this comment was taken the wrong way, it was meant as humor. ;)

davidmash 01-01-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorn (Post 3075298)
Teaching the earth is only 6500 years old cuts out a lot of history and science classes. :D

New school motto:

"Savings through ignorance."

davidmash 01-01-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 3075309)
How much "history" is cut out?

Maybe some "pre-history", but I doubt if much true history is eliminated.

Not sure what you mean by true and pre but Texas altered history in the books tot he point where it is a joke. Some of the changes involve down playing Jefferson's roll in the founding of the US, questioning the separation of church and state and said that the US government was infiltrated by communists during the cold war.

The school board also decided that Reagan should be emphasized more, hip hop music should not, and Jefferson David should be studied along side Lincoln. They also decided to assert the founders Christian faith even though quite a few were secular or Deists.

This is the reality of the Texas school board. By the way, the board consists of 10 republicans and 5 democrats. Go figure.

Benz Dr. 01-01-2013 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3075395)
Roughly 4.5 billion years,give or take.

History is history, you cannot pick and choose.

Besides, do you really want kids growing up ignorant and ill-informed?
Isn't that part of the larger problem?


I don't know. Such rational and well thought our reasoning is lost on people who go with Biblical beliefs on things of such obvious contex. Kind of like pissing on your boots to warm your feet up. Feels good for a little while and then it soon leaves you colder than before you bothered with such a useless idea.


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