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jplinville 12-21-2012 07:49 PM

Gun Banning perspective...
 
There are those in this country, perhaps even some on this board, that think a complete ban of all firearms is the way to go after the shootings last week. Even though I don't think it will happen in my lifetime, the country is headed down that road with each new piece of legislation and regulation concerning firearms...give an inch, take a mile.

Anyway, we know from government numbers, that there were 9,484 firearm related homicides in 2008. Source

According to that mentality, banning guns would have saved roughly 9,500 innocent lives in one year.

What if I were to tell you that I know how to save 13,846 lives from violent deaths?? What if there was something else we could ban from society's use that could actually save roughly 47,000 lives each year?? Would you be willing to ban that item in hopes of saving these lives??

Click here to see what I think would help society more than banning firearms...

It's certainly something I could completely do without, and never miss it.

davidmash 12-21-2012 08:00 PM

JP,

We have already had this conversation in the other thread. The purpose of a gun is to kill. . Alcohol is a food. Sure it can be abused but so can anything else.

Instead of focusing on bans which most of her have acknowledged don't work perhaps your time would be better spent on advocating the idea we agreed upon in the other thread. If the gun folks do not get out in front of it, bans will be put into effect, they will be unproductive for the people because they will not affect homicide rates but the prices will go up for the guns.

Idle 12-21-2012 08:01 PM

I do not consume any form of this product, but the US is dependent on the taxes generated from its' sales.

A Probation Officer I know says that 50% of all crime could be eliminated if this product were banned, at least in the rural Texas area he worked in.

jplinville 12-21-2012 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidmash (Post 3071031)
JP,

We have already had this conversation in the other thread. The purpose of a gun is to kill. . Alcohol is a food. Sure it can be abused but so can anything else.

Instead of focusing on bans which most of her have acknowledged don't work perhaps your time would be better spent on advocating the idea we agreed upon in the other thread. If the gun folks do not get out in front of it, bans will be put into effect, they will be unproductive for the people because they will not affect homicide rates but the prices will go up for the guns.

Since when did you begin worrying about where I focus my time??

greazzer 12-21-2012 08:08 PM

It is sadly just an agenda of mostly the left. It might get more votes than whatever the new "crisis" garners. I was amused by a certain contingent of congress members who commented about the "trite" comments of the NRA. EG, guns don't kill people, people do and how that comment is really "trite." Well, can the same be said about automotibles? Do automobiles kill people or do people ? Most folks would most likely say people when using autos but insert guns, and it's now guns. We really don't need cars, or booze, or tobacco, and the list goes on. We crossed off pot, however. It's just what appears to be popular among the politicians at the time and what the media pimps. It is horrible that 26 folks passed away because a deranged young man went on his rampage. However, how many people die of starvation every minute of the day ? Around 15-18 depending on whose counting noses and their funding source. I rarely if ever hear the media comment on this. That certainly sounds a lot worst than once crazy guy and his AR-15. I just hope the "right" and the NRA get their act together and protect the citizens' right to bear arms, and that includes an AR-15 with a 100 round drum magazine.

jplinville 12-21-2012 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Idle (Post 3071032)
I do not consume any form of this product, but the US is dependent on the taxes generated from its' sales.

A Probation Officer I know says that 50% of all crime could be eliminated if this product were banned, at least in the rural Texas area he worked in.

I consume it in very limited quantities. My neighbor brought over a quart of eggnog made with Southern Comfort which I found to be quite tasty. I could go the rest of my life never touching a drop, if I decided to. I'm content with a drink once every couple of months or so.

I'd be inclined to agree with the probation officer you know, at least in some parts of the US. Other parts, drugs are the issue.

I'd be willing to agree if someone would claim that 75% or divorce is alcohol related as well.

Fulcrum525 12-21-2012 08:24 PM

:deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/open-discussion/332054-wth-wrong-some-people-shooting-ct-elementary-school.html
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/open-discussion/332274-teachers-carrying-guns.html
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/open-discussion/332272-criminals-ignore-gun-laws.html
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/open-discussion/332327-course-most-sane-safe-logical-answer.html
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/open-discussion/332205-last-two-days-gun-shop-sales-through-roof.html

jplinville 12-21-2012 08:32 PM

No...you're refusing to see this for what it is, a compromise. You regulate firearms to keep them out of the hands of kids and irresponsible, and we get to do the same to keep alcohol out of the hands of kids and irresponsible. How hard is that to take??

toomany MBZ 12-21-2012 08:35 PM

I wonder if there were an armed adult or two in that school the poor bastard would not have needed to kill himself.

pj67coll 12-21-2012 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidmash (Post 3071031)
Alcohol is a food.

Like hell it is.

- Peter.

unkl300d 12-21-2012 09:15 PM

I agree.

Many physicians will agree that technically, alcohol is a poison for the body.

Hey, schools of thought exist that consider meat a poison for the body etc. etc. etc.

:)

jplinville 12-21-2012 09:22 PM

Which is more deadly to the populace?? Guns or alcohol??

jplinville 12-21-2012 09:23 PM

Some would claim the Freedom of Speech as being more deadly than either...

tbomachines 12-21-2012 10:32 PM

x2, lets see how many parallel conversations we can have at once!

davidmash 12-21-2012 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unkl300d (Post 3071071)
I agree.

Many physicians will agree that technically, alcohol is a poison for the body.

Hey, schools of thought exist that consider meat a poison for the body etc. etc. etc.

:)


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