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Volker 03-05-2013 07:56 PM

I am not really sure why there is a "student judiciary". I mean... why isn't even a guilty rapist allowed to follow the courses? I can understand if not passing because of being in jail (evident) but otherwise?

aklim 03-05-2013 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Volker (Post 3109873)
I am not really sure why there is a "student judiciary". I mean... why isn't even a guilty rapist allowed to follow the courses? I can understand if not passing because of being in jail (evident) but otherwise?

I have no issue with a student judiciary. Why not? It handles campus matters that are NOT criminal and life is good. However, when faced with a rape, murder, destruction of property, etc, etc that should be handled by LEO, that is where the campus authority should refer it. Simply say "I'm sorry but this is a case for the Sheriff, State Police, etc, etc".

Diesel911 03-08-2013 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim (Post 3109743)
Had she brought charges, there would be something to defend, attack, whatever. Because the idiot didn't, we have what we have. He said, she said.

So it sounds like I can accuse you of whatever I want and you have the duty to defend yourself. Fair enough if that is your stand.

I don't know about that. Apparently they did send her a warning that she disregarded and didn't even go to defend herself which brings us back to the paragraph above.

Maybe, maybe not. What you will do or won't do is hard to say. Odds are, I'd be wondering if her being away wouldn't make it go away too as would anyone else.

Yes but that is going to be like the "For a good time, call...". You ever call anyone back? Also, she'd be afraid to tip her hand.

It is not really My stand on it it is just that anyone can do that.

Example: When You said you thought I was Gay I answered back that; that was not correct and that I had answered that same question before.
I could have said nothing; but then People might have believed you.

aklim 03-08-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel911 (Post 3111340)
It is not really My stand on it it is just that anyone can do that.

Example: When You said you thought I was Gay I answered back that; that was not correct and that I had answered that same question before.
I could have said nothing; but then People might have believed you.

Being gay is not a crime. What if I went to your neighborhood and accused you of being a pedophile? Now you have to spend time and money to stop me accusing you of the issue. Something which is unfair since you now place the onus on the accused whereas we said "innocent until proven guilty". You MIGHT be keeping with the letter of the law to some extent but Somehow, I see it as a violation of the spirit of the law.

So do you think that it is good that anyone can accuse anyone (outside of a court of law) and that the accused has the job of defending himself/herself? I would disagree with that policy.

Diesel911 03-08-2013 11:29 PM

[QUOTE=aklim;3111345]Being gay is not a crime. What if I went to your neighborhood and accused you of being a pedophile? Now you have to spend time and money to stop me accusing you of the issue. Something which is unfair since you now place the onus on the accused whereas we said "innocent until proven guilty". You MIGHT be keeping with the letter of the law to some extent but Somehow, I see it as a violation of the spirit of the law.

So do you think that it is good that anyone can accuse anyone (outside of a court of law) and that the accused has the job of defending himself/herself? I would disagree with that policy.[/QUOTE]

It does not matter if it is a crime or not. In the face of a false accusation My point was you have to stick up for Yourself.

It does not matter if it is good or bad to accuse someone outside of the Law; the reality is that someone can do it until either the Accused or the Law stops them.
Another alternative might be that the Public might come to the defense of someone they like.
Was there ever a time or place where the above Paragraph was not true?



You brought up the term Pedophile. Was it wrong for those Men who were molested as Children by the various Priests to accuse them of being Pedophiles in Public and out side of the Law when there is little evidence to support their claims?


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