The fact that the military police can descend on a city and lock it down, and than strip the suspect of his rights is a bit disconcerting to me.

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I'm disliking this new war on terror screw the Constitution and Bill of Rights government we have here.

I can't wait for the first patriot to shoot down one of their drones.

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What Constitutional rights were taken?

First, fourth, and he was denied his Miranda Rights.

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How many of those are absolute rights, free of any and all regulation?

Just because a crime takes place in a neighborhood doesn't give the police the right to kick in and enter every door in that neighborhood.

Also the lock down was not needed, a standard police manhunt would have dragged him up. These guys were no worse than the robbers who shot up the cops in LA a decade ago with AK47's and they were brought down after a bit of trouble with a standard police response.

Liberties are worth more than catching one criminal or temporary safety.

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I wonder, was L.A. locked down when the cop/ex-Marine that went apeshizzle was on the loose?

It appears that is so now but at first they did not really know if the perps were associated with a larger group. Did they kick down every door in the neighborhood?

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Perfect.

It would be a hoot to see some one try & stand the moral high ground with the guys doing the door to door.
I can just see it now. Face full of pepper spray, Pushed head first onto the concrete ~ broken nose, cuffed, over night shared accommodation with some of his face pedophile crackhead. Explaining to the judge the next morning that they had no right !!
Best those who think they can stand up to the leo's in this sort of situation, stay hiding behind their moms apron !

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The tight to freely assemble for one.

Any time in the future simular methology may be applied. If you think about it no addditional people got into the line of fire during the hunt and this shutdown also limited his more open movement..

In my view if there had not been cameras at the site and they had not robbed the 7-11 things could have been much harder to get a partial resolution. If the second suspect does not survive there may always still be unanswered questions.

If you believe the news it looks like at least the older brother joined a radical movement. I think the powers that be want to find out if there are any internal north american connections to any group.

As I have already earlier stated If the younger brother survived his injuries I really do not care what they have to do to him to gain any knowledge he may have in this area. Once they are certain without a doubt he was involved. To me there is not much doubt if any currently he was not directly involved..

This type of thing is neither civil or criminal as much as a form of warfare. Falls under the catagory almost of being out of uniform. The penalties for that have always been extreme. I just cannot see normal criminal justice dealing with this type of issue. His citizenship may even be automatically revoked if obtained to make the attack easier. If this was done he has no protection under the constitution.

This growing hatred for america can have very serious implications down the road. Without suggesting anything just one very smart and skillful person can dispose of millions. What has been seen so far is just very limited in comparison to what is possible.

The police do all the shooting, they are trigger happy.

Look at NY, or the guy in CA, or this as three very good recent examples.

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Why not treat it as criminal? Massachusetts law allows for life without parole for multiple murder, combined with aggravated assault and arson. Simple as that. There seems to be ample evidence to press those charges.

The death penalty (aka offering the little twerp a chance at early martyrdom) would not be desirable. Nor would terrorism charges, really, since they would allow for discussion of his political motives at trial, giving him a pulpit from which to speak.

Nope. Treat him as a common killer, and the only question becomes: did you set off those bombs and shoot down the MIT cop? Yes? Enjoy your stay at Walpole, hope your roomie thinks you're cute.

MAYBE offer him a plea bargain and possibility of release after 20 years IF he comes out with verifiable evidence about the people who put them up to this.

Not to mention Ruby Ridge and Waco.

Not to mention the fact that the person who found the perp was a homeowner who violated the lockdown and went out to look in his boat, and not the cops.

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