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Old 06-04-2013, 09:34 AM
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A healing economy is a violent one

Violent Crime in U.S. Rises for First Time Since 2006

By TIMOTHY WILLIAMS

Published: June 3, 2013


Violent crime rose in the United States in 2012 for the first time in six years, led by an increase in major crimes in large cities, according to preliminary data released Monday by the F.B.I.

The nation’s largest cities, those with more than one million people, also had upturns in violent crimes, though at more modest rates. The largest cities had a 1.4 percent increase in violent crime, including 1.5 percent for murders and 3.2 percent for rapes, according to the statistics.

Over all, the nation’s violent crime rate ticked up by 1.2 percent in 2012 after years of steep declines.

In 2011, for instance, the nation’s rate of violent crime rate fell by 3.8 percent after having dropped by 6 percent in 2010 and 5.5 percent in 2009, according to F.B.I. data.

The last year in which violent crime rose nationally was 2006, when the rate went up by 1.9 percent. Before that, from 1996 to 2005, violent crime had declined by 17.6 percent, according to the F.B.I. figures.

In fact, crime levels have been dropping so much for so long that criminologists had been left guessing the reasons — and where it might end.
“We probably now have answered the question of how low it can go, and we may be bouncing off the bottom now,” said Dennis Jay Kenney, a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York.

But Dr. Kenney added a note of caution, saying that seeking to pin a reason for a single year’s increase in serious crime was inadvisable. “We probably need another year to tell if we’ve got a pattern here,” he said.

Joseph Pollini, another John Jay College professor, said that one possibility was that there were fewer police officers on patrol in some metropolitan areas that have cut spending sharply in recent years because of the recession.

“You’re dealing with depleted police resources,” he said of budget cuts that have caused a reduction in the size of nearly every urban police department.
Among the big cities where violent crime increased was Indianapolis, with a population of 840,000.

While murders there rose only modestly — the 101 recorded in 2012 were five more than in 2011 — there were nearly 780 additional violent crimes in the city, led by 5,967 aggravated assaults. That figure, according to the F.B.I. data, represents some 700 more aggravated assaults than in 2011.

Memphis, with a population of 657,000, had an increase of more than 1,000 violent crimes — 11,505 in 2012 compared to 10,338 in 2011. That included a jump in the number of murders to 133 from 117.

While Detroit, with 707,000 residents, saw a drop in its violent crime rate, murders in the city increased to 386 from 344. In New York, where there was a small increase in violent crime, murders dropped by about 20 percent to 419, the lowest number in more than half a century.

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Well, the problem with that analysis is eroneous data. A rising Dow does not a healing economy make.
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The title should read rising crime in a period of decreasing funding for law enforcement.
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Well, the problem with that analysis is eroneous data. A rising Dow does not a healing economy make.
Exactamundo. Just because Counterfeiter Ben prints more money doesn't make the economy good.
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Exactamundo. Just because Counterfeiter Ben prints more money doesn't make the economy good.
No, but it is keeping inflation and deflation at bay.

When the money supply grows at the same rate as the GDP inflation is kept at about 1%. Since inflations has not been a problem for many years it seems that someone is doing something right.

And, despite what Conservative pundits tell you, the money supply can also shrink. Printing money will not increase the money supply and not printing it will not decrease it. It is far more complicated than Conservative experts would lead you to think, but this is likely because they don't understand any of this themselves.
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The price correction in assets from the last bubble economy to 2009 was good and necessary. Inflating the same assets (or attempting to) to 2006-7 prices is immoral in my book. The Fed's inflation measure is a bad f@@kin joke.
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The price correction in assets from the last bubble economy to 2009 was good and necessary. Inflating the same assets (or attempting to) to 2006-7 prices is immoral in my book. The Fed's inflation measure is a bad f@@kin joke.
There is currently no attempt by anyone to inflate assets. Assets increase in value on their own accord and due to many market forces.

Rush Limbaugh himself has said this is due to supply and demand and nothing else.
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Those evil conservatives lie!
When it comes to economics I doubt that they are telling lies, but they are without a doubt talking about something they have little knowledge of.

But they push on and tell everyone they are experts. The proof of their predictions not being accurate is one indication of how immature their thinking is when it comes to economics.
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There is currently no attempt by anyone to inflate assets. Assets increase in value on their own accord and due to many market forces.

Rush Limbaugh himself has said this is due to supply and demand and nothing else.
Rush Limbaugh? I'd sooner believe Emperor Norton.
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Well if Limbaugh said it, it must be true.
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Hahaha! Whooo boy. I'm still waiting for gold to AVERAGE 1300 on the year. Meanwhile, the fed admit the economy is a travesty, dow dropped, "smart" money's moving away from stocks and real estate and the Nikkei bubble(full of foreign money, mind you) is popping but nope. 'S'all good. Nothing to see here. And if you really want to speculate, 2 Hindenburg Omens in a week.
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