Phoney Navy SEAL of the Week

[dynalow]

Stolen Valor. Senior Chief Don Shipley, USN, former Navy SEAL calls out frauds. This is at once enraging and entertaining. Mostly enraging.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aETnvkri4PY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny2Qt_LjWhM

I salute you Chief, even though you're enlisted.

[Diesel911]

I think claiming to be a Combat Vet Seal or not is way pathetic. That is something that has to be earned the Hard Way.

[Skippy]

Most of the time if someone tells you they're a SEAL (or Green Beret, or Force Recon) they're lying. Most actual current and former SEALs (and Green Berets, and Recon Marines) won't tell you about it unless you get to know them pretty well first.

In my experience, if someone tells you they are/were some sort of support troop, they are generally telling the truth. If someone is going to lie about their service, they're usually going to lay it on thick and heavy.

[Mike Murrell]

Originally Posted by Skippy

In my experience, if someone tells you they are/were some sort of support troop, they are generally telling the truth. If someone is going to lie about their service, they're usually going to lay it on thick and heavy.

Yep - something like 1 in 8 or 1 in 10 are actual IIB/0311 - USA/USMC yack for Infantry. The rest are truck drivers, logistics, clerks, etc.

[Diesel911]

Originally Posted by Skippy

Most of the time if someone tells you they're a SEAL (or Green Beret, or Force Recon) they're lying. Most actual current and former SEALs (and Green Berets, and Recon Marines) won't tell you about it unless you get to know them pretty well first.

In my experience, if someone tells you they are/were some sort of support troop, they are generally telling the truth. If someone is going to lie about their service, they're usually going to lay it on thick and heavy.

I think especially in Combat the Special Forces units have none Special Forces Trained Support Troops and maybe even some none Special Forces Combat Troops in their Units.
I think some of those People will try to pass as Special Forces because the fell they were in a Special Forces Unit.

Then the Bulk of the Public is ignorant of the specifics of stuff. A Vietnam War Era Vet can simply be someone who was in the Military any where in the World; including in the United States.
If you say Vietnam War Vet that term still could include the above.
To narrow it down you would need to say Vietnam War Combat Veteran but that could also include a Cook at a Fire Base or even anyone in the Military in Vietnam because there could be a fight anywhere in the Country.

[Diesel911]

Originally Posted by Mike Murrell

Yep - something like 1 in 8 or 1 in 10 are actual IIB/0311 - USA/USMC yack for Infantry. The rest are truck drivers, logistics, clerks, etc.

In an emergency any of the Support People could end up in Combat.

In Vietnam that often sent the Support People to fill out Patrols.

As an example if everyone is eating C-rations there is no need for a bunch of Cooks; that could happen with anyone who is not needed at the Base.

In the case of Vietnam some of the Support People sent out to the Bush got poisoned by Agent Orange or other issues and there was no record they were sent out to the Bush. When they got home and tried to get treatment or disability they were denied.

[dynalow]

Originally Posted by Skippy

Most of the time if someone tells you they're a SEAL (or Green Beret, or Force Recon) they're lying. Most actual current and former SEALs (and Green Berets, and Recon Marines) won't tell you about it unless you get to know them pretty well first. *

In my experience, if someone tells you they are/were some sort of support troop, they are generally telling the truth. If someone is going to lie about their service, they're usually going to lay it on thick and heavy.

* Unless you write a book about it.

My nephew obtained for me an autograohed copy of No Easy Day from "Mark Owen." I haven't read it yet, only had it a few weeks.
I have mixed feelings about him writing the book, but I appreciated him signing it and thanking me for my service, which I openly admit amounted to a cup of coffee in the Geedunk compared to his or most soldiers' & Marines' service of my era (1965-67)

[Mike Murrell]

Originally Posted by Diesel911

In an emergency any of the Support People could end up in Combat.

In Vietnam that often sent the Support People to fill out Patrols.

As an example if everyone is eating C-rations there is no need for a bunch of Cooks; that could happen with anyone who is not needed at the Base.

In the case of Vietnam some of the Support People sent out to the Bush got poisoned by Agent Orange or other issues and there was no record they were sent out to the Bush. When they got home and tried to get treatment or disability they were denied.

Quite aware of that - got to see that movie. My comments were meant to track an earlier reply(Skippy). If someone is going to pile on the BS, they're not going to tell you they worked on jeeps for 4 yrs.

[Medmech]

During my tour in retail I had to endure bs'ers all damn day and couldn't do a thing about it but did take a few stabs whenever I had the chance the people are so stuck deep in their crap that they think everyone else does is like them, I think some even believe it. This is much unlike in the bar where I can out them with extreme profanity and a good laugh as they walk out the door.

I hope he is charged for faking that dd-214, that's big time fed business there.