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Jim B. 11-20-2013 12:43 AM

George Zimmerman Must Give Up Guns to Get Out of Jail
ABC News
By CHRISTINA NG, MATT GUTMAN and SENI TIENABESO


George Zimmerman Accused of Pointing Gun at Girlfriend

George Zimmerman was told today he must surrender his guns in order to get out of jail following his arrest for the alleged aggravated assault of his girlfriend.


A Florida judge set bond at $9,000 and Zimmerman's lawyers said they expect him to get out of jail Wednesday.

He must also wear an electronic monitoring device and have no contact with his girlfriend.

Zimmerman stood expressionless as the judge explained that there is probable cause in his case and a bead of sweat trickled down his face as the judge explained the conditions for his release.

The state attorney said that the victim, identified by police as Zimmerman's girlfriend Samantha Scheibe, said there was a prior domestic violence incident a week-and-a-half ago that involved "a choking."

The victim also said that Zimmerman has threatened to commit suicide, saying he "had nothing to lose," the state attorney said.

"She is in fear for her safety," the state attorney said of the victim. The victim asked for "no contact and no return."

His arraignment will be Jan. 7, 2014.

Jeff Dowdy, chief of Seminole County Public Defender's Office, is Zimmerman's new attorney. In a news conference after the hearing, he told reporters it was "too early to say if it's a meltdown but we'll find out."

Assistant public defender Daniel Megaro said he was "confident" Zimmerman will be acquitted. He said the allegation that Zimmerman has been suicidal was "news to us."

He also said that Zimmerman has maintained his innocence.

"Of course he's sorry for what happened, but he's maintaining his innocence," the attorney said.

They attorneys said they did not see anything in Zimmerman's behavior that caused any immediate concern for his safety or that he would be a danger to anybody else.


Before the hearing, Dowdy told reporters that Zimmerman is "indigent" and about $2.5 million in debt.

When asked how Zimmerman was doing after a night in jail, Dowdy said, "He's upset. He's calm, but he's upset. He wants to go home."

Zimmerman, 30, was arrested Monday after a "domestic disturbance" with his girlfriend. He now faces a felony charge of aggravated assault and the lesser charges of battery domestic violence and criminal mischief.

Zimmerman's girlfriend, who the Seminole County Sheriff's Office identified as Samantha Scheibe, told a 911 dispatcher that the incident began when the former neighborhood watch captain grew upset during an argument and brandished a weapon at her.

"He's in my house, breaking all my s--- because I asked him to leave," Scheibe told the dispatcher. "He's got a freaking gun breaking all my stuff right now."


Scheibe said Zimmerman then pushed her out the home that they have shared ever since Zimmerman became estranged with his wife and locked her out. Authorities said when they arrived Scheibe gave them keys to the home, and that they had to push through obstacles by the door to get in.

"When we arrived, the victim indicated that she and George Zimmerman were having a verbal dispute and at that time she alleged that he had broken a table and pointed a long-barrel shotgun at her," Seminole County Sheriff's Office Chief Deputy Dennis Lemma said at a news conference.

However, Zimmerman tells a different tale. He told police in a separate 911 call that she instigated the incident.

"My girlfriend has ... for lack of a better word, gone crazy on me," said Zimmerman while police knocked on the door trying to speak with him.

"The police is already there and so why are you calling? What happened?" the dispatcher asked.

Zimmerman replied, "I just want everyone to know the truth."

George Zimmerman Charged With Aggravated Assault of Girlfriend

Zimmerman asked to speak with an officer on the phone. He was unarmed when police got to him and "rather passive," Lemma said. He offered no resistance and was taken into custody. He is being held without bond and if a judge decides to let him go free, authorities have requested that he once again be outfitted with an electronic monitoring device.

Late Monday night police were seen removing what looked like evidence from the home.

Zimmerman became a controversial figure when he shot and killed unarmed black teen Trayvon Martin. He was acquitted of second-degree murder in July.

Zimmerman conceded he shot and killed Martin in Sanford, Fla., on Feb. 26, 2012, but maintained he fired in self-defense. His acquittal caused widespread anger.



For an "indigent person", he sure has a lot of guns.

cmac2012 11-20-2013 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 3241756)
Sounds like what many of you want is vigilante "justice", rather than the rule of law.
None of that previous case is material in this new case.

I didn't hear a call for that. The previous case has no legal bearing on this case but the notoriety of that case will move people to notice his subsequent missteps. The media is doing what it does in the marketplace: presenting the stories that people will pay for.

t walgamuth 11-20-2013 10:03 AM

More of the SOS. Him putting himself into hot water and his apologists apologizing for him. I predict (fearlessly;)) that this will continue until he is in jail long term or deceased.

rscurtis 11-20-2013 10:30 AM

I think you have something there. Were it me, I'd make sure I didn't even jaywalk or litter. O.J. is another shining example of similar stupidity- and it cost him dearly.

HuskyMan 11-20-2013 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 3241119)
Big Z got away with murder, now just like OJ he figures he can be as big a douche as he wants and nobody'll touch him.

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Jorn 11-20-2013 01:16 PM

From the Daily Beast: "Zimmerman may not travel outside Florida nor have contact with weapons, ammunition, or Scheibe: “not in person, not by phone, fax, mail, tweet, Facebook—no contact at all,” the judge emphasized. The no-weapons rule, the judge added, is “in part for her safety and in part for your own safety” and is based on the “previous, unreported claim of battery by strangulation.”

thedailybeast.com

t walgamuth 11-20-2013 01:30 PM

The guy is a mean, vicious mope.

spdrun 11-20-2013 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3242211)
The guy is a mean viscous mope.

Do you mean to imply that he doesn't act very fluidly?

benhogan 11-20-2013 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 3242213)
Do you mean to imply that he doesn't act very fluidly?

yeah like a fan clutch

t walgamuth 11-20-2013 02:49 PM

Where is spell check when i need it!;)

fixed it.

Jim B. 11-20-2013 03:29 PM

Rough justice may yet have its day.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3242211)
The guy is a mean, vicious mope.

Don't worry about him.

(some comments from BWOT):

He'd be someone's chubby little beech in a day
...

He's screwed big time.

The Aryan Brotherhood won't have him, the Latin Kings and MS13's consider him "white washed" and the Crips/Bloods/Devil's Disciples/P. Stone Nation guys would chop him up and flush him down the toilet if given a chance.

I'd give him a year....even in protective isolation.


...

Under American laws expect to hear more of him, unless he ends up in jail and then the inmates will do the job that the law is supposed to do. Rough justice.

...

I would not want to be in his shoes if he were to be sent to a Maximum Security Penitentiary in the U.S.
Or Medium Security for that matter.
I believe that quarantine lasts 3-6 weeks, after that it's off to the housing units.
Shelf life at that point for an individual like G.Zee would most likely be 2 weeks to 4 months.
And then...BAM..projected into the next dimension.

Naturally he would opt for Protective Custody, which may extend his life up to as much as 2 years...but at some point...someone would get to him.

SwampYankee 11-20-2013 03:59 PM

Looks like OJ will have a golfing buddy in no time. Oh wait...

Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3242264)
Where is spell check when i need it!;)

fixed it.

Their, they're, there. Spell check wouldn't have helped. ;):D

P.C. 11-20-2013 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim B. (Post 3241975)
George Zimmerman Must Give Up Guns to Get Out of Jail
ABC News
By CHRISTINA NG, MATT GUTMAN and SENI TIENABESO


George Zimmerman Accused of Pointing Gun at Girlfriend

George Zimmerman was told today he must surrender his guns in order to get out of jail following his arrest for the alleged aggravated assault of his girlfriend.


A Florida judge set bond at $9,000 and Zimmerman's lawyers said they expect him to get out of jail Wednesday.

He must also wear an electronic monitoring device and have no contact with his girlfriend.

Zimmerman stood expressionless as the judge explained that there is probable cause in his case and a bead of sweat trickled down his face as the judge explained the conditions for his release.

The state attorney said that the victim, identified by police as Zimmerman's girlfriend Samantha Scheibe, said there was a prior domestic violence incident a week-and-a-half ago that involved "a choking."

The victim also said that Zimmerman has threatened to commit suicide, saying he "had nothing to lose," the state attorney said.

"She is in fear for her safety," the state attorney said of the victim. The victim asked for "no contact and no return."

His arraignment will be Jan. 7, 2014.

Jeff Dowdy, chief of Seminole County Public Defender's Office, is Zimmerman's new attorney. In a news conference after the hearing, he told reporters it was "too early to say if it's a meltdown but we'll find out."

Assistant public defender Daniel Megaro said he was "confident" Zimmerman will be acquitted. He said the allegation that Zimmerman has been suicidal was "news to us."

He also said that Zimmerman has maintained his innocence.

"Of course he's sorry for what happened, but he's maintaining his innocence," the attorney said.

They attorneys said they did not see anything in Zimmerman's behavior that caused any immediate concern for his safety or that he would be a danger to anybody else.


Before the hearing, Dowdy told reporters that Zimmerman is "indigent" and about $2.5 million in debt.

When asked how Zimmerman was doing after a night in jail, Dowdy said, "He's upset. He's calm, but he's upset. He wants to go home."

Zimmerman, 30, was arrested Monday after a "domestic disturbance" with his girlfriend. He now faces a felony charge of aggravated assault and the lesser charges of battery domestic violence and criminal mischief.

Zimmerman's girlfriend, who the Seminole County Sheriff's Office identified as Samantha Scheibe, told a 911 dispatcher that the incident began when the former neighborhood watch captain grew upset during an argument and brandished a weapon at her.

"He's in my house, breaking all my s--- because I asked him to leave," Scheibe told the dispatcher. "He's got a freaking gun breaking all my stuff right now."


Scheibe said Zimmerman then pushed her out the home that they have shared ever since Zimmerman became estranged with his wife and locked her out. Authorities said when they arrived Scheibe gave them keys to the home, and that they had to push through obstacles by the door to get in.

"When we arrived, the victim indicated that she and George Zimmerman were having a verbal dispute and at that time she alleged that he had broken a table and pointed a long-barrel shotgun at her," Seminole County Sheriff's Office Chief Deputy Dennis Lemma said at a news conference.

However, Zimmerman tells a different tale. He told police in a separate 911 call that she instigated the incident.

"My girlfriend has ... for lack of a better word, gone crazy on me," said Zimmerman while police knocked on the door trying to speak with him.

"The police is already there and so why are you calling? What happened?" the dispatcher asked.

Zimmerman replied, "I just want everyone to know the truth."

George Zimmerman Charged With Aggravated Assault of Girlfriend

Zimmerman asked to speak with an officer on the phone. He was unarmed when police got to him and "rather passive," Lemma said. He offered no resistance and was taken into custody. He is being held without bond and if a judge decides to let him go free, authorities have requested that he once again be outfitted with an electronic monitoring device.

Late Monday night police were seen removing what looked like evidence from the home.

Zimmerman became a controversial figure when he shot and killed unarmed black teen Trayvon Martin. He was acquitted of second-degree murder in July.

Zimmerman conceded he shot and killed Martin in Sanford, Fla., on Feb. 26, 2012, but maintained he fired in self-defense. His acquittal caused widespread anger.


For an "indigent person", he sure has a lot of guns.

Another victory for those liberal, latte-sipping gun-grabbers...it's not as if he's previously shot more than one or two people...

t walgamuth 11-20-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwampYankee (Post 3242301)
Looks like OJ will have a golfing buddy in no time. Oh wait...


Their, they're, there. Spell check wouldn't have helped. ;):D

Oh yeah.:o

panZZer 11-20-2013 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim B. (Post 3241889)
I will allow you to be the person who gets to flush the dead fetus down the toilet, ok?

Dont let the hairie bible salesman hear you say that--He's on the loose again yu know.


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