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Idle 12-27-2013 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 3260987)
And yet, most of the forwarded right wing emails I read begin with "this has been verified by Snopes", even when Snopes has found the exact opposite to be true.:rolleyes:
The ones I like not only have the 'verified by Snopes' in the first paragraph but also 'I don't know if this is true, but...'.

If you don't know if it is true then why are you sending it on, and if you claim Snopes has verified it then isn't that the same thing as you saying you do think it is true?

Dudesky 12-27-2013 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 3260444)
You are repeating nonsense that has been soundly refuted since 2008.

Neither one lost or otherwise surrendered their license. There was no malpractice. They both placed their licenses on suspended status. A common practice for lawyers who aren't in active legal work in order to avoid having to pay renewal fees, take continuing education and pay for required professional insurance. Obama placed his license into retired status after having been elected.
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“Voluntarily retired” — what does that mean? Bill Clinton hung onto his law license until he was convicted of making a false statement in the Lewinsky case and had to “Voluntarily Surrender” his license too.
This is the former editor of the Harvard Law Review who doesn’t seem to give a crap about his law license.
How many lawyers would surrender their means of work even going into other areas when it would require retesting and studying rather than pay the renewal fee?

davidmash 12-27-2013 11:43 PM
How many presidents returned to their old job after leaving office? You really think Obama would return to a law practice after leaving office?

Dudesky 12-27-2013 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 3260444)
You are repeating nonsense that has been soundly refuted since 2008.

Neither one lost or otherwise surrendered their license. There was no malpractice. They both placed their licenses on suspended status. A common practice for lawyers who aren't in active legal work in order to avoid having to pay renewal fees, take continuing education and pay for required professional insurance. Obama placed his license into retired status after having been elected.
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ARDC Individual Attorney Record of Public Registration and Public Disciplinary and Disability Information as of December 17, 2008 at 11:09:14 AM:

Full Licensed Name: Michelle Obama
Full Former name(s): Michelle Lavaughn Robinson
Date of Admission as Lawyer
by Illinois Supreme Court: May 12, 1989
Registered Business Address: Not available online

Registered Business Phone: Not available online
Illinois Registration Status: Voluntarily inactive and not authorized to practice law - Last Registered Year: 1993
Malpractice Insurance:
(Current as of date of registration;
consult attorney for further information) No malpractice report required as attorney is on court ordered inactive status. MICHELLE OBAMA ON "COURT ORDERED INACTIVE STATUS" - Atlas Shrugs
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pzydj617-o...ARDCrecord.jpg

t walgamuth 12-28-2013 07:09 AM
I believe it was John Adams went back and served in the House after leaving the presidency. Back in the early days a lot of them went back to work. I imagine Obama will go back to community organizing.....just kidding. I imagine he will do things like Clinton does.....foundations, fund raising etc. campaign appearances.

Like the nine hundred pound gorilla, he'll do whatever he wants.;)

dynalow 12-28-2013 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3261292)
I believe it was John Adams went back and served in the House after leaving the presidency. Back in the early days a lot of them went back to work. I imagine Obama will go back to community organizing.....just kidding. I imagine he will do things like Clinton does.....foundations, fund raising etc. campaign appearances.

Like the nine hundred pound gorilla, he'll do whatever he wants.;)
I think you are right on all counts.

elchivito 12-28-2013 09:07 AM
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What part of voluntarily inactive are you having trouble with?

As far as your hair-on-fire source's Court Ordered nonsense, you musta missed this page: Here's a quote of the salient fact in case you don't want to read all the words. Bolding is mine for your benefit.

Prior to November 1, 1999, former Supreme Court Rule 770 provided for a proceeding in the Court for any voluntary transfer to inactive status, whether because of some incapacitating condition or solely as a matter of the lawyer's preference because the lawyer would not be practicing law.

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elchivito 12-28-2013 09:12 AM
The Obamas did not in any way, shape or form lose or involuntarily surrender their licenses.

Honus 12-28-2013 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Dudesky (Post 3261233)
It pays to read the rules:
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Prior to November 1, 1999, former Supreme Court Rule 770 provided for a proceeding in the Court for any voluntary transfer to inactive status, whether because of some incapacitating condition or solely as a matter of the lawyer's preference because the lawyer would not be practicing law. ...

ARDC* |* Lawyer Registration [emphasis added]
Your posts are slanderous.

Dudesky 12-28-2013 09:29 AM
Guess if you went to law school for some six years, spent all that time testing and studying, it would be a good thing to voluntarily surrender your license then at an age of 29. That is what you are saying.

If you voluntarily surrendered or retired your license, that would negate an embarrassing disbarment, wouldn't it?

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My points in all this are simple with respect to the Obamas’ licenses to practice law: (1) Michelle Obama went inactive in 1994, despite a Harvard Law School degree, which is very strange, unless she was doing so to avoid a hearing on something; (2) her husband “retired” in January 2008. I am not saying that they were ever formally charged with misconduct. I am saying that the most plausible reason for their having abandoned their licenses was to avoid disciplinary action and the threat of public disbarment. That was what Nixon and Clinton fully understood. My critics do not, or, being lawyers, pretend not to.
Lost Law Licenses: Presidents Obama, Clinton, and Nixon – LewRockwell.com

elchivito 12-28-2013 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Dudesky (Post 3261330)
Guess if you went to law school for some six years, spent all that time testing and studying, it would be a good thing to voluntarily surrender your license then at an age of 29. That is what you are saying.

If you voluntarily surrendered or retired your license, that would negate an embarrassing disbarment, wouldn't it?
Pure, unadulterated speculation on your part and on the part of the "sources" you're reading. Just more conspiracist "you can't prove it didn't happen" reasoning.
Knock yourself out if those kind of "facts" are all the proof you need.:rolleyes:

Dudesky 12-28-2013 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 3261335)
Pure, unadulterated speculation on your part and on the part of the "sources" you're reading. Just more conspiracist "you can't prove it didn't happen" reasoning.
Knock yourself out if those kind of "facts" are all the proof you need.:rolleyes:

Lol...maybe you and Honus should do some fact finding.

Like Honus pointed out, section 770........770 just happens to be the section for discipline.....:eek:

And you used snopes which didn't deal with the issue at all and now you chastise me for facts?

link 12-28-2013 10:13 AM
I didn't know anyone still uses MS Word from 1998.


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MTUpower 12-28-2013 10:16 AM
I never believe "right wing" emails or "left wing" emails- because pigeonholing is akin to hatin'.

MTUpower 12-28-2013 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by link (Post 3261357)
I didn't know anyone still uses MS Word from 1998.


https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...Rka9XKDpRYUoEw
You should get out more often. The world is not full of folks who can buy new stuff every year.


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