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Guinea confirms fever is Ebola, has killed up to 59 | Reuters First line is " Guinea has received confirmation that a mysterious disease that has killed up to 59 people in the West African country" Near the end says: "Though no epidemics of the disease have been recorded among humans in West Africa, a variety of Ebola infected a colony of chimpanzees in Ivory Coast's Tai National Park, near the country's border with Liberia, in 1994."

The world health organization has been worried about this disease breaking out and getting spread for a long time. I thought they were working on a usable vaccination.

We may have a resilient plague with this hardy little microbe. The natural population checks on the planet will keep trying till it finds a means to balance a population growing in urban mega-slums unchecked like a cancer. Isolated regions survived the pandemic of 1918 as long as they maintained quarantine, when they thought it was over and let down their guard it hit them too. Science never did find a viable vaccine for that one, there's no guarantee they'll find any vaccine for this one either.

Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of history are doomed to repeat them.

Rubber meets Road: BBC News - Canadian man in hospital with Ebola-like virus

history….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGAXfKP1JLg
Fort Detrick 1985 Accident | Researcher in isolation appears healthy despite possible Ebola exposure - Baltimore Sun
Russian Scientist Dies in Ebola Accident at Former Weapons Lab - NYTimes.com
Mystery: Did Experimental Vaccine Save Ebola Accident Victim's Life? | Science/AAAS | News

Ebola 'Totally Out of Control,' Doctors Without Borders Says - NBC News

West Africa Is 'Overwhelmed' By Ebola : Shots - Health News : NPR

More words of note:

How long before it jumps continents? What's the incubation period? Could some doctor or nurse inadvertently carry it back home before getting sick?

See post #4. ...

The thing is, so far it is a small problem anywhere else, but this looks like it might have the potential to require quarantine of the African continent. What would we do then, shoot down planes and sink boats that tried to flee?

This is a nasty bug

Sierra Leone's chief Ebola doctor contracts the virus | Reuters

First Ebola victim in Sierra Leone capital on the run | Reuters Science deniers?

If this thing can't be contained at its current size, what next?

Protesters march on Ebola center in Sierra Leone | Reuters

Yeah this thing is getting under control. U.S. doctor contracts Ebola in Liberia | Reuters

I need a score card to follow this thing.

Liberia shuts border crossings, restricts gatherings to curb Ebola spreading | Reuters

Nigeria isolates Lagos hospital where Ebola victim died | Reuters

The Last Ship

Pardon me, but what does that mean?

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I think this is what he meant.

I dunno, who is he to be telling me to watch TV? But back to ebola. IF they can't contain it at this point, and even the medical staff are succumbing, what is the expectation they can deal with it farther down the road? I suppose if it this the herd is thinned enough the contact transmission rate will subside, but where is that data point?

how do we feel about two ebola patients coming to the us?

not good. I suppose they'll have to lock down the continent to all travel eventually.

Starting

Exclusive: Liberia health system collapsing as Ebola spreads | Reuters

^^^

Did Liberia ever have a well-functioning healthcare system?

Probably not anymore.

Save yourself from ebola, drink salt water until you die...

"And there are unconfirmed reports of people dying from drinking an excessive amount of salt water."

Pray Over Hot Salt Water, Then Bathe In It: An Anti-Ebola Ritual | Wisconsin Public Radio

Gonna get worse before it gets better. Silver lining, average IQ might end up higher.

Crowd loots Ebola center in Liberian capital, worker says patients removed

Ebola v lead poisoning

Liberia police fire on protesters as W.Africa's Ebola toll hits 1,350 | Reuters

Can't we just send the infected to IS and when they get head chopped they spread the goodness?

Finally some good ideas: Ivory Coast closes western borders over Ebola threat | Reuters Sierra Leone makes harboring Ebola victims a crime | Reuters

Harboring Ebola victims already carries risk of a very unpleasant death. Not sure if adding jail time would serve as much of a deterrent.

Just about under control now BBC News - Ebola outbreak confirmed by DR Congo

New Ebola Cases May Rise to 10,000 a Week by December - WSJ - WSJ

Don't worry about global warming getting out of hand either :D

Some effort at closing borders is being discussed. I doubt it could be totally effective on the African continent. Investigation of how it was transmited to American health workers at home is underway. I have to believe some Africans would have to be already on the run from the really bad areas. I know I would be. A percentage will be already infected and not know it.

I suspect the transmission was by oversight in the texas hospital. Still on the other hand I seriously suspect they are watching for any sign of the mutations of the virus changing the transmission charactaristics.

This is still the real risk that is not being adaquatly protected against in north America. The virus is becoming much more familiar with the human animal. Odds are low but the chance is still too great to not have holding tanks for twenty one days for anyone going from Africa to Europe or north America.

It is better to have some inconvienience than the potential alternative. At least until a good anti viral drug known to work well is available easily for this virus.

If I were a politician I would act. Simply as a matter of common sense fully realizing if it really got loose in an easier transmittable form in north America. My parties goose would be cooked or totally destroyed on the basis of negligence. Where is public health and disease control anyways?

This virus is no joke. As of today two Americans sick that need not have happened are two many already. It was avoidable.

Reopen Ellis Island quarantine hospital? All three major NYC airports are along waterfronts, so it should be easy enough to ferry people there.

At the very least the U.S., Canada and Mexico would need to be in accord on closing their respective entries to West Africans. I think something needs to happen but am not optimistic.

not with this administration and the PC culture in general. I bet if it was suggested, someone would give statements saying those infected had the "right" to free movement....that's how F'd up things have become

I swear I wish you guys would read the Tom Clancy books dealing with (fictional) Ebola scenarios. I feel like I've watched this all happen once before.

MV

"The Hot Zone". **** just got real in the U.S.

Remember at the beginning of this thread when it was only 59? Only back in March. Wonder what March 2015 will bring?

Some people need to step away from a contagious media fever pitch. ;)

Too early to tell yet but Hospital officials in New Haven have quarantined a patient with Ebola-like symptoms as a precaution.

EDIT-Tests were negative for Ebola.

As far as the spread from patients in the hospitals goes, I don't have a lot of faith in the systems in place for health care workers. When my wife was hospitalized for MRSA, protocols for nurses caring for her were routinely broken. Masks were not always worn, gloves were not always worn even while dealing with the IV site, patient-specific thermometers and stethoscopes weren't always used and left the room without proper handling. It's no wonder to me that the MRSA bacteria is becoming such a big issue in hospitals and won't surprise me if the Ebola virus does the same and expands into the rest of the population for the same reasons.

I'll miss you guys :D

I hope you're right! Between Ebola and the Entero virus news blasts my wife is afraid to send the kids to school. :o

No, more people need to buy into hysteria. I like the idea of cheap plane tickets, cheap hotel rooms, etc. And a 25% additional decline in stocks due to panic-selling wouldn't hurt either. Along with people staying home and not looking for property for sale -- reduces the competition.

Europe, Ebola, etc seem like the perfect storm to cause another profitable crisis for the benefit of the lemmings. Note that I'm not actually wishing for an Ebola epidemic, which would be a disaster. I have family and friends whom I love very much and wouldn't want to see ill. Just lemming-panic about such without one actually happening.

When did I become so damn cynical?

Just the message to send to kids. ;)

They never hear about it, just me. :)

When calculating risk . . . the drive or walk to school is scores time more likely to lead to injury or illness than contracting either of the two "publicity hound" virii.

Nurse !! Can you please take another sample for me !!


India Quarantines Ebola Survivor Because Of Infectious Semen | Wisconsin Public Radio

Here is a nice thought.

Endless Ebola Endemic? That's The 'Risk We Face Now,' CDC Says | Wisconsin Public Radio

From the link Insidious posted

He don't sound too smart to me.

It's a dirty job ... but someone has to do it.