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engatwork 08-11-2014 07:56 PM
A moment of silence for Robin Williams
 
Always enjoyed the comedy. I hope you RIP.

Can't Know 08-11-2014 08:13 PM
It's a suspected suicide, too. Just awful that he felt he couldn't go on.

Thanks for sharing all of your talent with us, Robin. I too wish that you RIP, as zany as you were on earth, you've certainly earned it.

BAVBMW 08-11-2014 08:26 PM
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super SEC 08-11-2014 08:28 PM
I really liked his comedy and acting. He will be missed by many.

TheDon 08-11-2014 08:39 PM
RIP one of the greats.

MS Fowler 08-11-2014 08:47 PM
Remember the many great laughs he gave us.
Nanoo, Nanoo

Stoney 08-11-2014 08:57 PM
Worked with him once on Comic Relief and hands down the best improvisational comedian I ever saw...made me piss my pants more than once.

Evidently he suffered from severe depression, one mental condition for which no one has been able to truly understand or develop a treatment.

RIP, Robin...hope you found the peace that you were seeking.

iwrock 08-11-2014 09:02 PM
:(

Hopefully he is still making someone/somewhere laugh!

Dubyagee 08-11-2014 09:12 PM
A moment of silence for Robin Williams
 
Demons got the best of him. Demons and a lot of coke.

Hope hes at peace.

Can't Know 08-11-2014 09:26 PM
I found his appearance on "Inside the Actor's Studio."

It's long, as you may imagine, but oh so worth the time.

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Idle 08-11-2014 09:48 PM
Depression is something I have never understood but I do know people who tell me they have it and it is almost impossible to overcome.

Robin had at least four films in the can, two more slated and I know of one big budget pic that was talking to him about the lead. It is hard to understand how someone who has everything to live for could do this.

But like I said, depression is something I have never understood.

Skid Row Joe 08-11-2014 09:49 PM
Another senseless, and tragic death....

neumann 08-11-2014 10:00 PM
Truly a special person. I wish I had knew him personally.

Jim B. 08-11-2014 10:31 PM
We San Franciscans have always been proud to claim him as one of our own.

This is a great loss.

RIP Robin.

INSIDIOUS 08-11-2014 10:39 PM
Garp!

Jorn 08-11-2014 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS (Post 3371715)
Garp!
"The World According To Garp" is such a phenomenal movie. Loved him also in "One Hour Photo". Never liked him that much as a comedian, but there was definitely no improve like him. RIP.

barry12345 08-11-2014 11:47 PM
Poor guy probably suffered severe bi polar disorder. The manic portion perhaps enabled the spontainious comedy I had always suspected.

With that level of mania perhaps the depressive periods were also as severe. I imagine really severe periods of depression to be unbearable. Sad way to end a career of so many years.

cmac2012 08-12-2014 05:42 AM
Comedy is hard.

RIP

BobK 08-12-2014 08:08 AM
His golf routine is still one of the funniest, most accurate and most NSFW around. I am truely saddened by his exit. We never really know what demons another may be fighting.

Idle 08-12-2014 06:29 PM
He was also big on bicycle tours. He would make one of the big ones in Austin whenever he could and always took time out to be in photos with others who were riding.

He would even sneak into photos if he saw others taking them. One guy was showing me a photo of him and his wife and in the background there was a guy standing there and just looking into the camera. Yup, it was Robin Williams dressed in his riding gear with his sunglasses, helmet and gloves.

daw_two 08-12-2014 06:50 PM
RIP --- yes, he's made me laugh a lot. Maybe, one of the networks will run his previous shows again.

Depression is a terrible illness and so often mis-understood. Just telling a depressed person to pull themselves up and get over it, doesn't work nor help.

kerry 08-12-2014 07:36 PM
He had financial problems too.

INSIDIOUS 08-12-2014 10:39 PM
Plus the wife being a cheater :D

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davidmash 08-13-2014 12:50 AM
Part of me is angry at him. He was not done yet. He had more to give and I feel cheated. I know he was depressed and as mentioned above I cannot even begin to understand that. I guess he did not see another way out.

But I am still angry. He was not done. I know it's selfish but it's how I feel. He had more people to make laugh. I miss you Mr Williams.

aklim 08-13-2014 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by kerry (Post 3372068)
He had financial problems too.
Not to mention drug issues. Supposedly in rehab twice that we know of.

aklim 08-13-2014 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by davidmash (Post 3372169)
Part of me is angry at him. He was not done yet. He had more to give and I feel cheated. I know he was depressed and as mentioned above I cannot even begin to understand that. I guess he did not see another way out.

But I am still angry. He was not done. I know it's selfish but it's how I feel. He had more people to make laugh. I miss you Mr Williams.
Unfortunately, we have to respect his view even if we don't agree with it. If he says he doesn't see a way out, who are we to say that there is a way out? He hung himself with a belt on the doorknob so I'm guessing he could have stopped it anytime he wanted. That he could override his desire to live must have indicated a strong will to terminate. Why? IDK but if he says so, I accept it.

davidmash 08-13-2014 01:27 AM
I do not know much about depression but I doubt he was of sound mind and understood what he was doing. I think that is the thing about depression. I dont think the person has a full understanding of whats going on.

MBeige 08-13-2014 03:26 AM
I can't help but think, I hope this isn't what he's been doing all along:

"Sometimes it's more noble to tell a small lie, than to deliver a painful truth." (Night at the Museum, Battle of the Smithsonian)

RIP Robin Williams

Idle 08-13-2014 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kerry (Post 3372068)
He had financial problems too.
I think the problems he had in that area were a part of the delusions he had. I understand he had about $50 mil in the bank and was selling an estate in San Fran for about $30 mil, but this is down from the $150 mil he once had.

Money is relative to your position in life. I am much better off then most of the folks I know but none of them seem depressed over this. I am as poor as a church mouse when stacked up against the people I work for and yet I am OK with that.

I have been told that Robin was also depressed over 'needing' to take a TV job when he had seen himself as a film star. Other Actors don't really get this way, they want to perform even if it is just at a county fair since amusing people is fun for them.

You would be amazed at how insecure these people can be. Some of the let it get to them and some of them don't.

Just like everyone else.

Idle 08-13-2014 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MBeige (Post 3372202)
I can't help but think, I hope this isn't what he's been doing all along:

"Sometimes it's more noble to tell a small lie, than to deliver a painful truth." (Night at the Museum, Battle of the Smithsonian)

RIP Robin Williams
That is known as 'The Nobel Lie' and it was first spoken of by Plato. Williams character would have said such a thing since it is a well known political device for convincing the masses of what you want them to do or think.

Idle 08-13-2014 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by davidmash (Post 3372188)
I do not know much about depression but I doubt he was of sound mind and understood what he was doing. I think that is the thing about depression. I dont think the person has a full understanding of whats going on.
I spoke to a depressed guy yesterday about this. He said there is a physical pain involved that he could not describe but he said he could see someone killing themselves to make it go away.

He stressed that this is a real thing and not just something in your mind. If it were bought on by stress everyone would have it since just living is a stressful thing. There are some people that say they thrive on stress; I do my best work under stress.... And this is true. It is all a part of how they are put together and some of them also suffer from depression.

This depression thing is real. It is just not understood by a majority of the population.

oldsinner111 08-13-2014 12:22 PM
Yes I'm on meds,and I'm not ashamed.Its a chemical,or lack of thing. Alot of people suffer and go without help,as society expects you to suck it in.Religous people tell you its your relationship with God.I'm glad my V.A. has caring staff.

Idle 08-13-2014 12:36 PM
A friend of mine had a stroke. He lost his $80,000 a year job and is now on Social Security disability or whatever they call it. The Doctors told him he had about two years to live and that he would never be able to drive again. So they said he needed anti-depressants because he had to be depressed.

He wasn't. He said sometimes life throws you a curve and you just go with it. Nobody lives forever and he never thought he would get out of this alive, so while his situation is not great he isn't too shook up about it.

This has never been a guy with a sunny disposition but he always looked at life in a realistic manner. The doctors were amazed he was not depressed, but depression is a thing and even though he has the struggles of Job lain on him at least he is not inflicted with depression.

And if you are seek help. Would you treat yourself for cancer?

aklim 08-13-2014 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Idle (Post 3372297)
A friend of mine had a stroke. He lost his $80,000 a year job and is now on Social Security disability or whatever they call it. The Doctors told him he had about two years to live and that he would never be able to drive again. So they said he needed anti-depressants because he had to be depressed.

Would you treat yourself for cancer?
I don't see a problem with that. If many are depressed from it, it is a good bet that he might be too. They are playing the odds and being proactive.

Cancer is a physical illness. You can biopsy the tissue. The other is under the realm of Psychology. IMO one is real, the other, a SWAG.

aklim 08-13-2014 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by oldsinner111 (Post 3372291)
Religous people tell you its your relationship with God. I'm glad my V.A. has caring staff.
My parents are of that group. I wouldn't say they are not caring either but they honestly believe there is a deity that watches out for them and that I need to get in good with this concept. If it comes out as desired, god is great. If not, god has a plan that you cannot understand but it comes out good in the end. I suppose that as the kids move out and they realize their mortality, they have to have something, regardless of how fictional to latch on to as a promise of tomorrow. Senility probably plays a huge role in it too.

TwitchKitty 08-13-2014 02:43 PM
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t walgamuth 08-13-2014 05:13 PM
A local columnist wrote about a chance encounter with Robin at a coffee shop. He came out with his coffee and there were not a lot of tables available so he saw this guy sitting there in sunglasses and asked if he could sit. The fellow said certainly. After a while the writer noticed it was Robin. They had a nice normal conversation. A lady came up and complimented Robin and he was very gracious. Eventually though it came to an end and they said goodby. A great memory for him.

Another person said that being an avid biker Robin would sometimes get into the background of peoples pictures and just look at the camera and smile. Cool. They look at the picture later and there is Robin in it.

Sounds like a well grounded nice man.

jake12tech 08-13-2014 05:58 PM
I took meds for about 7 years for a mild form of Bipolar they told me I had. Not ashamed to admit it really. I can relate to what the poor guy went through. I remember someone saying Robin was Bipolar, but chose not to take meds because he enjoyed the mania and didn't want to lose his sense of humor. I can understand that. I don't take them myself because it seems to decrease libido, and I won't ever put up with that. I just have to control myself more, and I'm still not sunshine to deal with every day at all, but I get by and I'm better than I used to be.

t walgamuth 08-13-2014 06:34 PM
The best man at my wedding and a good friend suffered from Bi Polar. I'd always wonder if I'd find out he had killed himself or something. He did die this year and nobody said what happened but I suspect it was suicide. A wonderful gentle man.

Back before it took over his life he was a whiz at design in school when in the maniac phase but when down he just couldn't get anything done. He had one structures course that he had to complete before graduating.....took him 3 years I believe to finish it.

The rest of us were graduated and gone and he was stuck in Muncie trying to pass that course. It was not til later the bi polar was diagnosed.

When he took his meds he balloned up and could not fit his clothes. He was married for a while but once in a breakdown period when he was in a hospital his wife sold off his nice XKE and then left him.

Skid Row Joe 08-13-2014 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Idle (Post 3372297)
A friend of mine had a stroke. He lost his $80,000 a year job and is now on Social Security disability or whatever they call it. The Doctors told him he had about two years to live and that he would never be able to drive again. So they said he needed anti-depressants because he had to be depressed.

He wasn't. He said sometimes life throws you a curve and you just go with it. Nobody lives forever and he never thought he would get out of this alive, so while his situation is not great he isn't too shook up about it.

This has never been a guy with a sunny disposition but he always looked at life in a realistic manner. The doctors were amazed he was not depressed, but depression is a thing and even though he has the struggles of Job lain on him at least he is not inflicted with depression.

And if you are seek help. Would you treat yourself for cancer?
There's no advantage to the doctors for not trying to prescribe drugs. In that case, if they didn't they could be looking at a malpractice lawsuit, if he did harm to himself. By prescribing drugs, it also insures your patient will be a source of an income stream for subsequent appointments for more drug prescriptions. Unless your "friend" is required to visit those doctors to keep his SSDisability, he's probably better off staying away from them.

You and others may not realize this, but Williams was a very, very long term legal and illegal drug abuser/user. Drugs were more likely than not the cause of him taking his own life. Anything that makes you feel good (drugs,) will also make you feel bad at some point. That's how drugs work. Drug abusers may not realize this because of denial and or the drugs have taken over the individual.

Idle 08-13-2014 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by aklim (Post 3372319)
I don't see a problem with that. If many are depressed from it, it is a good bet that he might be too. They are playing the odds and being proactive.

Cancer is a physical illness. You can biopsy the tissue. The other is under the realm of Psychology. IMO one is real, the other, a SWAG.
I didn't see any problem with it myself. I was only making the comment to show that some people are prone to depression and some are not and there is a biological reason for that.

Idle 08-13-2014 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe (Post 3372436)
There's no advantage to the doctors for not trying to prescribe drugs. In that case, if they didn't they could be looking at a malpractice lawsuit, if he did harm to himself. By prescribing drugs, it also insures your patient will be a source of an income stream for subsequent appointments for more drug prescriptions. Unless your "friend" is required to visit those doctors to keep his SSDisability, he's probably better off staying away from them.

You and others may not realize this, but Williams was a very, very long term legal and illegal drug abuser/user. Drugs were more likely than not the cause of him taking his own life. Anything that makes you feel good (drugs,) will also make you feel bad at some point. That's how drugs work. Drug abusers may not realize this because of denial and or the drugs have taken over the individual.
He was giving some drugs that were supposed to help and found they did more harm than good. I got to hear all about it since this was the new occupation he had taken on. One drug they gave him had a side effect of weird dreams. He never told us what he dreamed about but he said LSD could not have been any worse. He stopped taking that was was told he would die soon but so far he is still kicking. As the old joke goes, 'You call that living?'

You would be amazed to know which of your favorite actors take drugs. Williams was just open about it; most are not.

t walgamuth 08-13-2014 08:27 PM
Many people with depression self medicate with the intoxicant of choice, many of which use alcohol.

aklim 08-13-2014 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe (Post 3372436)
By prescribing drugs, it also insures your patient will be a source of an income stream for subsequent appointments for more drug prescriptions.

You and others may not realize this, but Williams was a very, very long term legal and illegal drug abuser/user. Drugs were more likely than not the cause of him taking his own life. Anything that makes you feel good (drugs,) will also make you feel bad at some point. That's how drugs work. Drug abusers may not realize this because of denial and or the drugs have taken over the individual.
I doubt it. Scripts last for a year unless they are schedule II narcotics or there is some really cool reason they need to see you which is related to how the drug works.

Yes, because normal people don't have bad days. :rolleyes: I've had rough weeks and such is life. Some days are bad and they go on for a while till you break the streak. Williams abused drugs but I don't know for certain if he died from them or he had got sick of living. Either way, it is his choice. He is a grown man and I respect it whether I agree with it or not. He was not one of the attention whores who threaten to kill themselves to get attention. Met one of them and even offered to buy him a copy of The Final Exit. We pulled out the chair but he wouldn't sit. Transferred out after he got sick of the suicide jokes, I guess.

Q: Why can't you borrow a copy of The Final Exit from the Library?
A: Some people borrow and don't return the book.

aklim 08-13-2014 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Idle (Post 3372446)
I didn't see any problem with it myself. I was only making the comment to show that some people are prone to depression and some are not and there is a biological reason for that.
Is that a theory or has it been proven fact? I don't bother reading psych so I might not be up to date on it but last time I did, it was a theory? :confused:

Skid Row Joe 08-13-2014 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Idle (Post 3372449)
He was giving some drugs that were supposed to help and found they did more harm than good. I got to hear all about it since this was the new occupation he had taken on. One drug they gave him had a side effect of weird dreams. He never told us what he dreamed about but he said LSD could not have been any worse. He stopped taking that was was told he would die soon but so far he is still kicking. As the old joke goes, 'You call that living?'

You would be amazed to know which of your favorite actors take drugs. Williams was just open about it; most are not.
I would probably be more amazed if few did not.

Skid Row Joe 08-13-2014 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by aklim (Post 3372471)
I doubt it. Scripts last for a year unless they are schedule II narcotics or there is some really cool reason they need to see you which is related to how the drug works.

Yes, because normal people don't have bad days. :rolleyes: I've had rough weeks and such is life. Some days are bad and they go on for a while till you break the streak. Williams abused drugs but I don't know for certain if he died from them or he had got sick of living. Either way, it is his choice. He is a grown man and I respect it whether I agree with it or not. He was not one of the attention whores who threaten to kill themselves to get attention. Met one of them and even offered to buy him a copy of The Final Exit. We pulled out the chair but he wouldn't sit. Transferred out after he got sick of the suicide jokes, I guess.

Q: Why can't you borrow a copy of The Final Exit from the Library?
A: Some people borrow and don't return the book.
I don't.

If you or anyone can prove the massive and prolonged drug use didn't contribute to his death? I'd say, good luck with that one. He was on and off drugs for decades. I'm betting more ON than OFF. Fact is, he used a massive amount of them. Did he suffer from mental illness as well? Who knows. He looked and sounded like it to me, but I'm no expert. Did mental illness play a part in his suicide? Again, who knows. But what is certain is that drugs in mass quantity that ppl ingest over time have a down side. The same drugs that make you feel good, can also make you feel bad. If you don't believe that? Well, with all sincerity, I'd say that's hard to believe given the proof of how whacked-out drugs can and have made ppl behave.

INSIDIOUS 08-13-2014 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by aklim (Post 3372319)
I don't see a problem with that. If many are depressed from it, it is a good bet that he might be too. They are playing the odds and being proactive.

Cancer is a physical illness. You can biopsy the tissue. The other is under the realm of Psychology. IMO one is real, the other, a SWAG.
WTF is up wif u bein all swag??? http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Swa...dc_4345392.jpg http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...ek-d4z6x1q.jpg http://th06.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/...14-d48la12.jpg Please define swag as you choose to use it :)

aklim 08-13-2014 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe (Post 3372507)
I don't.

If you can prove the massive and prolonged drug use didn't contribute to his death? Good luck with that one, friend. He was on and off drugs for decades. I'm betting more ON than OFF. Fact is, he used a massive amount of them. Did he suffer from mental illness as well? Who knows. He looked and sounded like it to me, but I'm no expert. But what is certain is that drugs in mass quantity that he ingested over time have a down side. The same drugs that make you feel good, can also make you feel bad. If you don't believe that? I can't make you believe it.
You know this how then?

I'm not clairvoyant. I don't read minds or tea leaves. I have no clue as to what contributes to his mental state and how significant. I have no idea any more than you as to what he took or didn't take. What contribution it has, if any, I don't know. I have no idea why he committed suicide. Do you? All I can see is that he came about his decision, whether correctly or incorrectly, that this was the best way. Was he tired of his life? Was he having financial problems? Marriage problems? I don't really know. He was not insane so I respect his decision to end his life as he saw fit. My wife gets panicked when I run the gas down to near the 1/8 tank. I don't take it seriously till it hits the last mark then I start thinking of the gas stations. What I think is a small thing, she thinks it is huge.

INSIDIOUS 08-13-2014 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe (Post 3372529)
I don't. If you can prove the massive and prolonged drug use didn't contribute to his death? Good luck with that one, friend. He was on and off drugs for decades. I'm betting more ON than OFF. Fact is, he used a massive amount of them. Did he suffer from mental illness as well? Who knows. He looked and sounded like it to me, but I'm no expert. But what is certain is that drugs in mass quantity that he ingested over time have a down side. The same drugs that make you feel good, can also make you feel bad. If you don't believe that? I can't make you believe it.
Ahhhhh. The fallacy to prove a negative, nice fail grass hopper :D


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