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My memories of Delta Flight 191......
At the time I lived in Irving, Texas and was working at a data processing center somewhere in central Dallas. At work we listened to the radio.....somewhere late evening we all heard the news of Delta Flight 191 crashing at DF/W airport.
Since I lived close to the airport, I hopped in the car and drove straight to the crash site. As I rolled up on the crash scene in my beater Toyota Celica around 10:00 PM, I rolled down the window. Dead silent, they had lights set up that were as bright as anything you would see at a baseball stadium at night. The silence is what got to me....no sounds of life..........I'll never forget it. BTW, the dents in the water tanks are still visible from Highway 114 if you drive by north of the airport. I always wondered why they didn't move the water tanks from the approach end of the airport...... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Air_Lines_Flight_191 |
Thank you for that information Husky Man .
This is news lots of others dont know about ,like me . |
If you ever witness something like this, you will never forget it; it stays in your memory banks. After I read the only survivors were seated in the tail section, I began booking my seat in the rear of the aircraft. This was prior to 9/11, since TSA started feeling people up, stealing items from your luggage, etc., I've stopped flying.
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We all thank you for not flying. No one on a plane wants to be stuck next to an irrational individual. UA 232 Quote:
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Air Traffic Controllers are NOT pilots and yet pilots regularly turn over control of the aircraft to them. Read the first sentence six times and let it sink in.......
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Oldest concept in the world. Unless you walk in a man's boots, you have no idea what his life is like. If you haven't gone through commercial pilot training either via the military or a recognized school, i.e. Spartan or Emory you:
1. Do not possess the skills to fly a commercial aircraft and... 2. HAVE NO EXPERIENCE occupying the pilot's throne. and yet, as an ATC, you have power over pilots, co-pilots, flight crews and THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of passengers each and every day. In the old days, the Captain of the ship was the captain of the ship. NOBODY was allowed to pilot the ship except (drum roll) THE FRIGGIN' CAPTAIN!!!:eek::eek: |
Reminds me of a flight I was on while serving in the Air Force. We were on a flight to South Dakota aboard a four star General's Boeing 707 (KC 135). You wanna know where your tax dollars are going? FIRST CLASS seating throughout the aircraft, two air force captains were his pilots, a flight attendant and he had his own office in the rear.
When we got near the air force base in North Dakota, the general gets up and goes to the cockpit. We strap on our seatbelts and prepare for landing. Only one problem, mr four star had learned to fly props during WWII and had very very little experience in jets. He came in so hot and fast we bounced off the runway three or four times. He took every inch of the 9000 foot runway, he finally made the very last turn around. We thought he was going to run the plane off the concrete and into the grass. On the flight home, a friend and I went up to the cockpit and questioned the pilots about what had happened during the previous landing. That's when they informed us about the LACK of skills the four star general had with regards to flying jets. Fortunately, we never flew with that guy again.....:eek::eek: |
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This is Delta Air Lines Flight 191 cleared for approach to DF/W. Ladies and gentlement, thank you for flying with us today. Please place your seats into their upright positions, return your tray tables to their locked position and fasten your seat belts. Since ATC ORDERED us to fly a mere 7 knots ABOVE STALL straight into microburst weather conditions, get ready to kiss your sorry a** good bye becase WE WILL BE CRASHING SHORTLY!!!!:eek::eek::eek: |
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You are freaking moron who would not have a clue how to navigate out of a paper bag. You are a pathological liar on par with 45. You are so detached from reality that you really should be supervised 24/7/365 because I think you pose a risk to others. You live in some fantasy land where facts mean nothing. Reality means nothing. I have serious doubts that you even know what a plane it much less have ever been on one. If you had a clue you would realize how utterly ignorant this and nearly every aviation based post you have ever made here are. I do not know if you have a care giver but if not you seriously need to consider getting one. |
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Commercial pilots with thousands of hours in the cockpit bossed around by ground based NON-PILOTS.
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Stall speed of a L1011 is between 124mph and 131mph with gears and flaps down @ max landing weight. ATC instructed DL 191 to slow to 150 mph. SInce you have difficulty with math that is 20 mph above stall speed. While DL191 was on final approach they encountered a head wind that increased airspeed to 170. They reduced engine power to near idle at their own discretion, not due to ATC instructions. Quote:
DVP's POTPOURRI: TRYING TO LAND DELTA FLIGHT 191 IN A SIMULATOR Bottom line is you are wrong again. The pilot does not do anything they do not feel is justified or correct. The pilots on DL191 acted in the best interest of the plane and their passengers with the info they had at the time. ATC was acting in the best interest of the crew and passengers as well. Sometimes things happen that are beyond the control of the people involved. Get a freaking clue. Everyone here already knows you are mentally challenged at best. The more you post the more you confirm that fact. |
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Whatever, when the pilot followed ATC instructions it resulted in the plane forced landing in the field north of DF/W, bounced then hit a car on highway 114 killing the driver. Good call.
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It has been so long I really don't remember the exact model Toyota I had. I do remember it as a 'beater' car.
I can tell you one thing; when you roll up on a crash scene of a Lockheed L1011, roll down your windows and hear DEAD SILENCE, you will never forget it. It is one very large airplane; the debris field was quite large. The fact that ground based non-pilots push large amounts of tin filled with thousands of passengers everyday seems to be lost on this audience......:eek: |
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I will bet pennies to dollars that in the after math of a L1011 accident the last thing you will hear is silence. And again if you ever were in a plane, around a plane, saw a plane or had anything to do with a plane in your entire life you would know that this is beyond idiotic. Alas, you have never had any aviation experience so you say stupid things with authority hoping that people will think you know what you are talking about. |
Thank goodness it is you and not I that is flying around in aircraft being directed and guided by ground based non-pilots.
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I cannot believe I fell for your trolling. I should know that no one can be this stupid.
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It's ok, the airlines need customers to stay in business. It finally hit me that ATCs aren't pilots and yet they are pushing a lot of TIN around the sky!
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It would do you well to actually understand what pilots and ATCs do before making statements and threads like these. Since you already said you don't care, I doubt reality will make an appearance in your thought process.
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Not picking a bone in this argument, but I find it funny that Huskyman wrote that. I looked into being an air traffic controller and have a friend who does it for a career. In the flying world, pilots and air traffic controllers have an odd and slightly hilarious contempt for one another. Almost like a married couple. The training, of course, is top notch. Definitely no doubt about that. Many pilots become air traffic controllers, but it's rarer to have air traffic controllers become pilots. |
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Delta 191 went down in the late afternoon around 6 p.m. Not late at night. You're remembering wrong.
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First and only plane crash I've witnessed up close. hope to never see or live through another.... |
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Funny enough, you can STILL drive by the water tower on highway 114 and see the dent the wing made. One would think the airport would MOVE the water tower somewhere else. I've had discussions with pilots about it, they tell me that NORMALLY planes are not blown off course therefore it is of no concern. I reply, yes, but THIS plane WAS blown off course directly into the path of the water tower. OUCH!! |
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