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Old 11-29-2019, 11:41 AM
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best car right now for 2020

VW Jetta 2.0 turbo, kicks Acura's behind good, cast iron block,steel double row timing chain,not slipping belts like acura crap. six speed manual, VW auto's have been trouble unless aux trans cooler added.

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Old 11-29-2019, 12:28 PM
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I was more thinking a base model 1/2 ton pickup truck but then I can't afford anything new so just dreaming .

What's best depends on your specific needs .
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Old 11-29-2019, 12:45 PM
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yeah its like both vw,and ford are going back to durable engines
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VW Jetta 2.0 turbo, kicks Acura's behind good, cast iron block,steel double row timing chain,not slipping belts like acura crap. six speed manual, VW auto's have been trouble unless aux trans cooler added.
You're delusional LOL
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Old 11-29-2019, 01:17 PM
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VW doesn't have a very good rep right now so I'd wait before buying one just yet .
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Old 11-29-2019, 02:29 PM
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VW Jetta 2.0 turbo, kicks Acura's behind good, cast iron block,steel double row timing chain,not slipping belts like acura crap. six speed manual, VW auto's have been trouble unless aux trans cooler added.
I've got one of those.

I'll admit though yesterday I was looking at 2006 mb wagons though! Some of them are rated 27 mpg vs 29 for my vw, though requiring premium.
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Old 11-29-2019, 08:04 PM
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Isn't a VW just an expensive to maintain Accord/Camry?
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Isn't a VW just an expensive to maintain Accord/Camry?
No, VW is just an expensive to maintain Yugo.
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Old 11-29-2019, 09:52 PM
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Old 11-30-2019, 01:53 AM
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For overall low cost per mile of ownership longer term. It is hard to beat some of the Japanese brands in my opinion. They have tended to have a higher resale value as well in general . This actually reduces their overall cost to some extent. . .The car business is always changing to some extent though at the same time.


Today there are more used cars out there than willing buyers perhaps. This easy credit to keep some semblance of the consumer based economy alive. Has and will continue to distort the marketplace. Currently credit is being force fed into society.
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Old 11-30-2019, 07:44 AM
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I think the jury is still out on the longevity of the cvt transmissions. I guess if you look at what they are put in (Nissan Rogue) then it should last at least as long as rest of the car which will probably be at the ~200,000 mile range. Hopefully most ppl will have it paid off by then where they will be able to get another new one.

I'm at a loss in regards to which car (outside of MB) I'd go buy new right now if I felt I needed to do that. It would either be a Ford F150 or a Dodge 2500 with the Cummins.
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Old 11-30-2019, 10:39 AM
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Actually I will not buy new with the ever more rapid depreciation factor in play. My daily driver seems to be as reliable as possible so far. I have had it for about three years. The paint even still shines with no wax job. We paid 3,800 for it Canadian. Or about 2,500 American.


So far two calipers and a battery. Plus some tires. Other than oil changes. I do tend to buy cars before I really need them. I just watch for cars that will meet my needs in my opinion. If I waited to buy them when the need was absolutely current I probably could not find one. At the right price for what it was.


I do not think many things we do as a couple are the best ideal to support the economy. Part of the equation is. I just do not feel the value is there with brand new cars. Value for money is almost an obsolete concept.


Some of my generation did not have It all that easy when we started out. Yet in retrospect we owned what we had.
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Old 11-30-2019, 10:42 AM
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Post The VW / Audi Conundrum....

VW bought Audi in 1967 and I wish they'd kept VW as the economy arm of the company .
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For overall low cost per mile of ownership longer term. It is hard to beat some of the Japanese brands in my opinion. They have tended to have a higher resale value as well in general . This actually reduces their overall cost to some extent. . .The car business is always changing to some extent though at the same time.


Today there are more used cars out there than willing buyers perhaps. This easy credit to keep some semblance of the consumer based economy alive. Has and will continue to distort the marketplace. Currently credit is being force fed into society.
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Old 11-30-2019, 12:22 PM
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Yes, the whole idea of always having new stuff is detrimental to your budget and life but few seem able to grasp that simple concept .

Back in the days long gone when vehicles didn't last nearly as long as they do now most folks who bought a new vehicle held onto it much longer than they do now, only surrendering it when it rusted out or became too expensive / unreliable .

My parents were middle class so they'd buy new but held on until the New England rust made visible holes, then they'd replace it while it still had some value as it could still pass the annual safety inspection .

Pops 1959 Peugeot 403 sedan ran O.K., by 1965 it needed the engine rebuilt and by 1967 the firewall developed rust pin holes and was no longer inspectable so it got summarily junked ~ it always ran well and we toured every where in it, overloaded with adults and kids, up to five children jammed in at one time .

I'm a thrifty sort so I'm O.K. with base models and the so called "penalty boxes" ~ I maintained a battered 1982 Ford Escort L for G.F. for a while, it was cheap to be sure but not uncomfortable, I drove it far and wide as necessary , it was near bulletproof if small, this of course made it nimble to drive, a good thing IMO .

If decent 4 or i6 powered small cars were still made I'd prolly buy one, a year old to avoid the initial depreciation .

Pretty much any new vehicle will give 100,000 miles of service before anything fails these days .

Many CVT's won't go that far so I'd be leery of buying one .

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