She deserves to live!

[sfloriII]

Here is a link to a website regarding the fight to save the life of Terry Schiavo. Her husband has successfully gotten the "plug" pulled and she will likely die if no one dares to petition Gov. Bush.

Terri Schiavo's Website


Yeah, it's heavy for a forum like this, but so is an unneccessary death.

[moparmike]

Frightengly similar to the story I just heard on MSNBC, about a kid in Utah who doesnt want CHEMO. His father refuses to submit his child to it.

In both cases the state has no business in the medical state or administering or forcing care of its citizens. It is between the doctors and patients. Sorry, but that is the way it is.

If anyone of you are put into government, you have no more right to determine what care I want or recieve than my dog. Actually, my dog has more right to that then any of you. She is family.

[blackmercedes]

Originally posted by moparmike
In both cases the state has no business in the medical state or administering or forcing care of its citizens. It is between the doctors and patients. Sorry, but that is the way it is.

I agree.

I sit on the fence when it comes to children, as I think they are incapable of making such a decision, and I wonder if, in some cases, we should be letting the parents make such decisions either. Tough one.

This is an emotional issue where no one wins. Too bad. Families sure fall apart when put to the test.

[wbain5280]

The news story says she is in a persistant vegitative state but the video shows her as responsive, so I don't know what to believe. The husband has waited 12 years for her to improve.

My parents have told me, and backed it up with the paperwork, that they want the plug pulled, if it comes to that. I'll wait a while too.

[ericnguyen]

Dear friends:

As the father of an 8 months old baby girl, I've felt that the most precious and only real love is the unconditional love of parents for their children. Have you ever sit back, relaxed and pondered over how many sleepless nights, how much money, time and effort your parents had spent to raise and educate you from a newborn baby to a grown adult? ... And then one day you got married and your spouse (wife or husband) instantly became the person who would have more control over your fate than your own parents? What a joke!

Perhaps many of you are not aware of the fact that in some Asian countries (for example, in Vietnam), a wife never changes her last name to her husband's last name. Her full name is what her parents gave her, and there's absolutely no reason for her to change the last name of her original full name at all IMHO.

Terri 's full name should always be Terri Schindler instead of the Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Her husband-Michael Schiavo got $1,300,000 from a malpractice lawsuit. A large portion of this money was awarded to Terri for her care and rehabilitation, not for him. I'm sure her husband wanted her to die because he would be able to keep a large portion of this money.

This is a paragraph from the web site sfloriII posted:

"Terri has no will. Should she die, her husband will inherit what is left of Terri’s $750,000 medical fund. Terri’s husband lives in a house with Jodi Centonze. He openly admits that he has been engaged to this women for over seven years, have recently given birth to a baby girl, and has announced plans to marry her when Terri is no longer alive."

I feel so sorry and so sad for Terri's parents. They gave birth to her and raised her, and then one day their cruel son-in-laws automatically has more control over her fate than they do????

Lame judges and dumb laws, written by inhuman lawyers.

Eric

[blackmercedes]

Originally posted by ericnguyen
...As the father of an 8 months old baby girl, I've felt that the most precious and only real love is the unconditional love of parents for their children.

Well put. I was asked what being a parent meant to me. This was when my daughter was about six month sold. They were expecting the "tired, no sleep, no partying" kind of answer. I said "there is now another person on the planet that I would reach into my chest and pull my heart out for."

The husband is showing a complete lack of respect for his wife's family by not respecting/working-within their wishes. I love my wife more than life, and we've been together for over half of our lives. That does not preclude her bond with her parents. You make an excellent point.

That said, I wish we really knew what this poor young woman's true wishes were. Have you seen the pictures/video of her before this terrible tragedy? She was a vibrant, beautiful woman. Today, she is anything but. What does she really want? Can her husband be trusted to make the right choice with a new bride-to-be and $750,000 on the line.

I am a little surprised at his new relationship. I would not have left her side. (Remember the "for better or worse" part? Hello?) Perhaps he feels differently as I do. Then divorce her, put her in the care of her parents, and go away. His actions stink of greed.

The more I type this thought, the more I despise this man. Is he really on a crusade to ensure Terri's wishes are honoured? It does not sound like it one little bit! Step up and be a man. Donate the money to charity, give it to her parents, something! Oh, I can hear it now: "I lost my wife, and I should get something too." He's got a new wife, fer chrissakes.

Rant ended, for now.

[Kuan]

Death by starvation. That's bloody humane isn't it?

Originally posted by sfloriII
Here is a link to a website regarding the fight to save the life of Terry Schiavo. Her husband has successfully gotten the "plug" pulled and she will likely die if no one dares to petition Gov. Bush.

Terri Schiavo's Website


Yeah, it's heavy for a forum like this, but so is an unneccessary death.

This is up to the family, and the wishes of Terry when she was able to function. It is not up to the public, nor the government to ovverride her wishes. Therefore, I cannot, and will not sign any petition.

I would want the same respects given to me. I DO NOT WANT TO LIVE AS A BURDEN ON MY FAMILY, NOR THE PUBLIC IN GENERAL. If I were to end up like her, then I would want to be allowed to die as well.

[rickg]

Originally posted by tkamiya
Does anyone know for sure on any of this?

I think you hit a key point here. I didn't read thru all the data, but have seen a few news reports. All we know is what we're told, so I reserve any opinions at this time.
I too believe in the living will thing. Both my folks had one, and in my mom's case, it was used. After suffering with cancer for 15 years, she finally said no more treatments. Let it be. But she was able to speak her mind. All there is for Terri is her previous wishes. I guess only the doctors and those around her can decide if there's "anybody home", and decide for her. Heart wrenching story either way.

[blackmercedes]

Originally posted by rickg
... All there is for Terri is her previous wishes. I guess only the doctors and those around her can decide if there's "anybody home", and decide for her. Heart wrenching story either way.

That is true. What are her real wishes? Let's suppose that her original will declared that she should not be allowed to "live" in the manner that she is now. Suppose again that her husband has spent all this time fighting her family to allow her wishes t be carried out. Well, so far so good for Michael. However, he has left her. Okay, I know. She a vegetable. He has "moved on" with his life. He has "needs." Well, in my own life, I don't see this happening. You're either hanging in there with her, fighting for her, or you're not. He's not. He wants to have it all.

I don't want ot make a judgement based on such few facts, but the thing I do know is that I don't agree with his behaviour.

[rickg]

Yes, I have to agree his right to speak for her is pretty slim. I'm not sure I blame him for moving on. It's got to be tough, and some people just can only survive this type of trial for so long. But either way, he's kind of forfeited his voice in this matter by moving on. But I suppose as long as he's still legally married to her, the courts have to consider his wishes, even if they don't like it. Rules are rules.
I just hope I, nor my wife, have to ever be in this kind of situation.

[Kuan]

Originally posted by blackmercedes
(Remember the "for better or worse" part? Hello?)

Don't think he remembers that, but I'm sure he remembers the

"till death do us part."

He's just trying to fulfill that part of his promise.

Morbid humor...

[rickg]

That brings up a whole 'nuther can of worms. So far, I don't codone euthenasia(sp?). And that's even after watching both parents die a slow, painful death. (Dad, more than once, had the gun on the kitchen table, ready to take care of buisness. But he never did)
So, what's the diff between Dr. Kovorkian, and letting someone just starve to death. I don't know. I'm still struggling with this issue. I just fear if these type of doctor assisted suicides became fully legal, it may open a real Pandoras box of new issues and problems. I'd rather it be on a case by case issue.

[sfloriII]

I find the whole situation quite saddening. Her husband is a selfish coward who simply will not live up to a vow he made to his wife. Now her life is in the balance and the legal debate goes on....... and will likely set a precident for future assisted suicide type cases.


As for me, I wouldn't want to be kept on a machine after a certain amount of time. No sense being a burden to my family and friends. I don't fear death anyway.

Time for ol¡¦ MM to chime in ƒº

My opinion is to have no opinion on this one because the facts are so obscured, that I can¡¦t differentiate between fact or fiction. One thing I do know is that is present living situation with another woman does not strengthen his case in my book.

My opinion pretty much mirrors Blackmercedes on this one (sorry john) if he wants to get on with his life that¡¦s fine and if her wishes are to be unplugged that¡¦s fine too, BUT give the money to a charity that represents her injury, illness or some other outfit that she supported. If I hear he gets the new Ferrari 612 I will unplug HIM myself.