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Old 05-25-2004, 09:48 AM
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Does Tom Delay think some Republicans are anti-American?

Before I get into the reason for this post, I enjoyed watching General Zinni slice and dice Sean Hannity last night. Hannity & Colmes is at its best when they have a guest with the ability to handle Hannity's attacking style. It exposes him for what he is - all style and no substance. Hannity can be very effective, but get the right guest on there and he is easily exposed. Man, Sean looked like a fool at the end of that segment. Great TV.

I guessing we don't have many Salon fans around here, but today they posted a great series of quotes from Republicans, conservative commentators, and distinguished military experts who Tom Delay, if he were consistent, would have to call anti-American. Here it is:

"Dangerous rhetoric"

When House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi voiced widely-held sentiments last week, telling a newspaper that President Bush was an "incompetent leader," she rather predictably brought upon herself the wrath of Tom "The Hammer" DeLay. Calling Pelosi's candid comments "dangerous rhetoric," House Majority Leader DeLay actually said her words were "putting American lives at risk." Using DeLay's logic, below find other individuals who have carelessly put the lives of Americans at risk recently by speaking their minds:

Retired Gen. Anthony Zinni, former CentCom chief: "There has been poor strategic thinking in this. There has been poor operational planning and execution on the ground. And to think that we are going to 'stay the course,' the course is headed over Niagara Falls. I think it's time to change course a little bit, or at least hold somebody responsible for putting you on this course. Because it's been a failure."

GOP Sen. Chuck Hagel: "I think you've got a president who is not schooled, educated, experienced in foreign policy in any way, versus his father."

GOP Sen. Lincoln Chafee: "The president talked about being humble when he was running for office but the opposite seems to be true."

GOP Sen. Pat Roberts: "In fighting the global war against terrorism,' we need to restrain what are growing U.S. messianic instincts -- a sort of global social engineering where the United States feels it is both entitled and obligated to promote democracy -- by force, if necessary."

GOP Sen. Richard Lugar: "I am very hopeful that the president and his administration will articulate precisely what is going to happen as much as they can, day by day, as opposed to a generalization."

Conservative writer and novelist Mark Helprin: "The war has been run incompetently, with an apparently deliberate contempt for history, strategy and thought, and with too little regard for the American soldier, whose mounting casualties seem to have no effect on the boastfulness of the civilian leadership."

Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol: "Well, that's right, [Bush] did drive us into a ditch."

CNN's bow-tied conservative Tucker Carlson: "I supported the war and now I feel foolish."

Former House GOP Leader Dick Armey: "We're letting the political hacks overrule the policy wonks in this town."

Conservative blogger Andrew Sullivan: "It's long past time that people can be asked simply to trust the president. After the WMD intelligence debacle and the Abu Ghraib disgrace, he has run out of that capital. He has to tell us how we will win, what we are doing, how it all holds together, why the infrastructure repair is still in disarray, and how a political solution is possible. I'm not sure any more that this president has the skills or competence to pull it off. But I am sure that he has very little time to persuade us he can."

American Conservative Union vice chairman Donald Devine, who refused to join a standing ovation for President Bush at the ACU banquet last week, and called Bush's speech "long and boring."

Conservative columnist George F. Will: "This administration cannot be trusted to govern if it cannot be counted on to think and, having thought, to have second thoughts."

-- Geraldine Sealey


I would add to this list Tom Clancy's comments on Hannity & Colmes last night. After getting pummelled by General Zinni, Sean patheticly turned to Tom Clancy and said that he was usually a good conservative guy, so what did he think? Clancy said that Bush had no casus belli when he invaded Iraq. Sean seemed crushed by the comment. It was great.

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Old 05-25-2004, 10:56 AM
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Here's a related quote from a few years back:

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president ... right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." - Theodore Roosevelt, 1918
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Old 05-25-2004, 11:08 AM
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Good work. Now wait for the knee jerk reaction and the knock on your door in the middle of the night from the "Unpatriotic Police".
This administration has branded anyone remotely critical of it as unpatriotic.
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Old 05-25-2004, 12:48 PM
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Yes, but the tide has turned. You can only maintain Orwellian doublespeak for so long in a democracy. I thought his speeech last night was particulary pathetic. Just to give a speech where he is assured someone will cheer the publicly discredited ruses he calls "foriegn policy", he has to appear before a War College. I wonder if his experience before his own conservative base at the ACU which you noted, had anything to do with his choice of venue. The entire enterprise is now an obviously intellectually bankrupt war of choice, and the public is realizing it got suckered and his conservative base now fears the public. They're not the only one who fears the public. At this point, Bush can't even give a campaign speech anymore without a handpicked audience in a staged environment, again as shown last night.

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