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Also there were several threads of negotiations occurring at the same time. Some of the most crucial exchanges IRRC, occurred between a very young Robert Kennedy and a low level soviet official who he happened to know in a diner in the DC area.
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What makes you think Mexico would not have taken the same opportunity to take back California, Nevada, Utah, and New Mexico, all of which they had ceded to us at the end of the war?
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Did they attempt it by force of arms or through legislative and judicial proceedings?
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Excerpt, ive highlighted some interesting quotes- "The Border Ruffians were pro-slavery activists from the slave state of Missouri, who in 1854 to 1860 crossed the state border into Kansas Territory, to force the acceptance of slavery there. The name was applied by Free-State settlers in Kansas and abolitionists throughout the North. Armed Ruffians interfered in territorial elections, and attacked Free-State settlements. This violence was the origin of the phrase "Bleeding Kansas". The Ruffians contributed to the growing sectional tensions, and helped bring on the American Civil War.[1] Notably, only a few of the Border Ruffians actually owned slaves; most were too poor. What motivated them was hatred of Yankees and abolitionists, and fear of free blacks living nearby.[2] The Ruffians were driven by the rhetoric of leaders such as U.S. Senator David Rice Atchison of Missouri, who called Northerners "negro thieves" and "abolitionist tyrants." He encouraged Missourians to defend their institution "with the bayonet and with blood" and, if necessary, "to kill every God-damned abolitionist in the district." Ironically, the bulk of Free-State men in Kansas were not abolitionists, and opposed the presence of both free blacks and slaves. "We want no slaves and we want no Negroes" was the prevailing sentiment reported by an abolitionist in 1854. [3] Additionally, the presence of bands of both Kansan and Missourian combatants in the area made it difficult for families on the border to remain neutral."
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what I find most interesting is what would have happened come 1914 if European history was the same? Would the CSA have allied with Germany? Would the USA have allied with Germany? is it possible there could have been a mason/dixon line front extending for 2000 miles and Americans using poison gas on Americans? Interesting to speculate.
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Lee lived in a different generation. Fifty years later more or less.
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something a dissolution of the union would certainly have promoted. What makes you think that with the American colonies divided into two weaker nations, that imperial powers in Europe would not take that opportunity to cut off sections of North America? What makes you think Mexico would not have taken the same opportunity to take back California, Nevada, Utah, and New Mexico, all of which they had ceded to us at the end of the war? The Botster responds: Wouldn't have had the ability to enter Korea, Vietnam, Granada, Panama, Lebanon, Iraq or Afghanistan. Damn. Quote:
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For instance, taking modern day production into account, 60% of all grain produced in the US is shipped via the Mississippi, from all over the midwest says the below site, and the river network is huge, going way up into the north almost to Canada, and stretching from Montana to PA. interesting link and quote- "Agriculture has been the dominant land use for nearly 200 years in the Mississippi basin, and has altered the hydrologic cycle and energy budget of the region. The agricultural products and the huge agribusiness industry that has developed in the basin produce 92% of the nation's agricultural exports, 78% of the world's exports in feed grains and soybeans, and most of the livestock and hogs produced nationally. Sixty percent of all grain exported from the US is shipped on the Mississippi River through the Port of New Orleans and the Port of South Louisiana." source- Mississippi River Facts - Mississippi National River & Recreation Area Imagine if the outlet of this huge river network was controlled by another country, that enormous production and shipping needs for the midwest USA must pass through the CSA to reach open sea and be exported around the world. I can see potential conflict right there. It would be like an American Gibralter. A natural choke point that people have been fighting over for thousands of years now.
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Most of the natural gas shipped to the USA comes into a little known village in Louisiana named Henry. Danged Haynesville and Marcellus shale will probably change that. Think of all of those deckhands and firemen put out of work by the evil oil companies.
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