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Stretch 08-14-2014 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pj67coll (Post 3372628)
Sorry to hear about the BS road tax situation in Holland. Clearly a bunch of eco-freaks wanting to get rid of older vehicles...
I think it just a system of envy and greed - they probably thought they'd make shed loads of money by taxing those vehicles but it seems like everyone has just taken them off the road...

Silly really - I bet the class car "industry" is having a pretty hard time at the moment. I wonder how much tax income they lost by doing this.

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Originally Posted by pj67coll (Post 3372628)
...I agree that the rust seems bad but I don't think it's insurmountable. All just depends really on if you think baling out now would be better than sticking with it. Seems you have more skills than most and I'd think you can likely keep it going if you really wanted to. I assume you don't have and are not considering a new car? So without having to compare the cost of the road tax to that of a new car payment the cost of the tax looms larger as a consideration than it otherwise might. I agree with you that the 123 sedan is the best looking of the series. And if it were me and I were to keep it I would keep the original color. It's a nice color for that car and in general I prefer keeping cars original if doing a resto. Especially Mercedes. Either way good luck. Hope it works out.

- Peter.
I was kind of hoping I'd not have to do as much as I'll have to.

I'm going to cut some holes and keep on that welding learning curve I've put myself on and see how it goes.

suginami 08-14-2014 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Stretch (Post 3372850)
I'm going to cut some holes and keep on that welding learning curve I've put myself on and see how it goes.
Good. I'm too emotionally invested in this project to see you just give up. :D

Mölyapina 08-14-2014 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by suginami (Post 3372912)
Good. I'm too emotionally invested in this project to see you just give up. :D
LOL. Me too.

gatorblue92 08-15-2014 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by suginami (Post 3372912)
Good. I'm too emotionally invested in this project to see you just give up. :D
I think we all are.

Stretch 08-15-2014 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by suginami (Post 3372912)
Good. I'm too emotionally invested in this project to see you just give up. :D
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Originally Posted by Jooseppi Luna (Post 3372956)
LOL. Me too.
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Originally Posted by gatorblue92 (Post 3373011)
I think we all are.
I'm the owner and I don't think I'm all that emotionally attached to it! At the end of the day it is just a car. It has "potential" but that is about it (there's not a single dishonest estate agent / car salesman on the planet who could successfully talk this one up to something it isn't)!

I'd like to get it fixed mainly so it doesn't get wasted and chucked away like the rest of the stuff due to the "little d" but I don't want to get too too carried away with this project (says he standing in ankle deep car parts, nuts, bolts and washers) - at the moment it is an opportunity to practice welding in my spare time. Due to non motoring circumstances it has been relegated to learning piece.

suginami 08-15-2014 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Stretch (Post 3373060)
.....At the end of the day it is just a car.
I look at the car as an alternative to seeing a therapist. :)

Simpler=Better 08-15-2014 04:29 PM
Don't get discouraged, yours is in much better shape that mine was when I scrapped it. I only scrapped it because the transmission/axles/climate control/interior/body was shot (hence saving the engine and fuel tank :P)

POR15 the areas you can't reach and call it a day, perfection is never possible-even on classic center cars

Stretch 09-13-2014 07:07 AM
A bit of progress cutting away bits no longer needed!

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...oint-again.jpg

greazzer 09-13-2014 08:29 AM
You always have the best picture-progress projects.

I'm thinking my Sleeper Part Deux may end up the route you are taking. Very, very scared to start peeking and poking at the rust spots since they grow and grow and grow. However, you are proving courage to the weak at heart.

Any chance you could take some snappies of the floorpans from under the car, especially the area where the floor makes the 2" step by the back seat? My greatest fears ... LOL

Great work BTW !

Stretch 09-13-2014 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by greazzer (Post 3385448)
You always have the best picture-progress projects.

I'm thinking my Sleeper Part Deux may end up the route you are taking. Very, very scared to start peeking and poking at the rust spots since they grow and grow and grow. However, you are proving courage to the weak at heart.

Any chance you could take some snappies of the floorpans from under the car, especially the area where the floor makes the 2" step by the back seat? My greatest fears ... LOL

Great work BTW !
I've put some pictures of what I've found under the subframe mounts (the step at the back) here =>

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/3366758-post125.html

It isn't pretty.

It seems to me all Mercedes rot in the corners of the floor pans given half a chance...

Stretch 09-13-2014 08:53 AM
More scary pictures from the rust repair thread =>

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...-out-rust4.jpg

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...king-point.jpg

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...-old-rust1.jpg

What lives behind a door like this?

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...er-gutter1.jpg

Ahhhhh crud!

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...er-gutter2.jpg

Stretch 09-16-2014 11:39 AM
Progress is slow

Holes on the floor pan and the bulkhead are being plugged

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...ad-repair3.jpg

I've now found rust on the lower sill spot welded lap joint on both sides of the car. I've ordered replacement sills that should be here tomorrow.

More details in this thread =>

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/body-repair/303669-my-w123-saloon-sedan-old-accident-repair-bit-rust-repair-thread-11.html

hjoab 10-18-2014 09:20 PM
Huge Job!! I am learning from you. I think I am going to do something similar in the coming future.
DON'T GIVE UP!!! I know you can.

BTW what king of still are u using?? where you get it?? Is it of similar quality than original?

Regards from Costa Rica

hjoab 10-18-2014 09:30 PM
BTW, can you make a favor? This car of yours looks exactly like the same model of mine. Yesterday I lost the AC compressor bolts on the way and I don't remember how they goes into the mounting. Can you take pics of it mounted or explain me how to do it? how long the bolts are and nuts, how they are attached?
The Hayes manual has another AC compressor mounting and I didn't found any pics similar.

I don't understand well what is your problem w taxes in Holland, but here in Costa Rica I pay $180 USD for taxes plus $20 for a RTV (technical revision) yearly for my w123.130. That's all.

hjoab 10-18-2014 09:42 PM
BTW, can you make a favor? This car of yours looks exactly like the same model of mine. Yesterday I lost the AC compressor bolts on the way and I don't remember how they goes into the mounting. Can you take pics of it mounted or explain me how to do it? how long the bolts are and nuts, how they are attached?
The Hayes manual has another AC compressor mounting and I didn't found any pics similar.

I don't understand well what is your problem w taxes in Holland, but here in Costa Rica I pay $180 USD for taxes plus $20 for a RTV (technical revision) yearly for my w123.130. That's all.


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