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Fuel Pump Relay - Dry Joint photo
After suffering the symptoms of random fuel starvation on my 1990 230CE, I found enormous help on this forum
Although not actually measured, I suspect that this joint is subject to quite a high current load even with a good pump. If this is the case, the fault is almost bound to develop at some time or other on most cars By the way, the relay location on my W124 230CE is behind a pull-out plastic shroud behind the battery (not behind the fusebox as I first thought, duh). Cheers to all John |
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Good info John!!
Mine would heat up due to the poor connection
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I have successfully repaired mine as well. It was harder to get the cover of the relay off
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Many times the fuel pump(s) are drawing too many amps. This will cause a burn in the trace.
The current should be less than 7amps.
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Thanks for the information Donnie. This begs the question: is it a worn pump that makes the relay connection fail or is the pcb not up to the job in any case? One possible answer would be to know how many failed in the first year on a good pump.
The 230CE was made in 1990 My electronics experience tells me that 7A is unlikely to cause the solder joint to fail per se, however, it may possibly have 'crystallised' over time due to repeated heating By a strange coincidence, I once had this fault on a BMW E30 I'll drop by with any updates. Cheers. |
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The problem with the relay is cold solder joints. If they had been soldered properly in the first place, they would not have failed. What happens is the pin that fits through the hole in the PCB does not get hot enough to adhere the solder properly. You'll notice that the pins where the problem exist are the largest pins with the body of the relay acting as a big ole heat sink when the soldering takes place.
Corrosion of the copper on the un-tinned (non-soldered) pins I have repaired my Idle Speed Control Module failure by resoldering its joints as well. Next is the cruise control module, which is flakey. |
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Technically, the problem is not a cold solder joint. The solder HAS adhered to both the post
In order for a solder joint to be effective, the connection must be mechanically stable Steve
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Under normal circumstances, I would agree with Steve about why some joints fail. Solder is pretty soft
When I was working in electronics it often seemed that many of the so-called electronic or electrical 'failures' were actually mechanical in nature or due to some outside factor such as dirt, water or heat. I guess the bottom line is that not much can really go wrong at the electron level in a well-designed system. All parts are designed to work within reasonably safe limits for a certain length time. In the case of this part, the time elapsed last Friday night. But wouldn't it be gratifying to know whether the person who assembled this circuit board ever gave a thought to how many people would mess their pants in the fast lane when the fuel pump stops doing what it does best. The mind boggles... Hi, is that the MB service desk? I'd like to arrange an appointment for my wife Good Karma?
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Nice pics John. That is exactly what happened to the OVP relay in my '89 230TE
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