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OM617 head gasket failure - pictures
Two customer tear-downs in one day.
Post# 1 pictures, I drained two gallons of coolant from the oil pan, head cracked on cylinder #2. #3. #4. The cylinder head cavitation/metal erosion is impressive. |
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OK, I'll pull out the blown head from my 85TD, and I'll pull the head off the 93 D with a snapped chain for ya!
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holy moly, the last couple pics, was that an outline to show all the cracks in them? or were they welded on (diddnt think they could be fixed like that)
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To quote a song, how long has this been going on? It appears to have been an issue for a long time! And, with all that coolant in the pan, surely this engine has lower end damage, as well.
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Man, that's ugly.
Very seldom hear of cracked heads on 617's. Maybe it was overheated?
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How many hundred degrees C was that engine running at to cause that?!
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roy tells me the majority of the damage to the head is due to PLASMA in the chambers from the cracks allowing water in during combustion...
that pitting is from CORROSION interaction with the iron in the plasmas of the water! there is a history in the motor and it totally blew roy away.
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! 1987 300TD 1987 300TD 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere! |
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Answer
Quote:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=272133 |
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That's amazing! What kind of noise was coming from the engine , or should I ask rather what where the symptoms ? Did the cracks occur from the problem or was the crack what caused it ?
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The second head removed
Here are pictures of the second head removed.
The paint mark shows a huge erosion crater on cylinder three. Note: This engine is scrap metal, all pistons and sleeves show pitting/scoring. Last edited by whunter; 10-03-2010 at 08:59 PM. |
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Here is the replacment head going into the 1983 300d.
It came from a W116 300d. |
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Shutoff car, popped the hood, engine compartment soaked with oil. Tried to re-start for a trip to the repair shop = click but no crank. Jumped the battery from a running 300SD, three revolutions then total stop, wait five minutes and repeat. Engine oil was two quarts low when it got to the shop. Installed new battery, three revolutions then total stop, wait five minutes and repeat. Starter replaced, three revolutions then total stop, wait five minutes and repeat. I put it on the hoist preparing to drop the lower oil pan for inspection. Pulled the oil drain plug roughly two gallons of coolant and six quarts of oil came out. The issue was rather obvious at that point. Further inspection showed most crankcase related seals where blown out by hydraulic pressure. |
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are there any differences between .950, .951, .952 heads?
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! 1987 300TD 1987 300TD 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere! |
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MB superseded all of them to the 617.952 head with no additional parts or TSB I can find.
MB# 617 010 65 20 |
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Make sure you grab the cam, cam towers, etc from your old head and put them on the w116 head. The newer heads differed with these parts to allow for more lift of the valves allowing the engine to breath better.
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