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BZ 10-25-2000 11:24 PM

Hello,

Here is the problem with my baby (92300ce)...
Slight hesitation when applying throttle from idle. when kickdown, see a puff of black smoke. Seems like the symptoms of engine running rich.
So, I brought to a mechanic. The guy said it is becoz i put a high octane gasoline (97) that damage the fuel distributor unit.

Is that right? Spending more money on "better" gasoline only to damage the engine?
Cheers, Benz

Ashman 10-25-2000 11:33 PM

Well I thought that inside my filler cover, it says use premium unleaded only.

I use 92 octane here in los angeles, but there is a place that sells 102 octane. I'd be afriad to use that because I dont know if my fuel system can handle it.

Perhaps 97 is the issue, do you have access to lower octane gas?

Perhaps you can dilute it down a bit with some 87 octane and see if the condition improves?

I'd Wait for a pro to answer this, I'm just guessing at things but thought it might give you some insight.

Alon

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BZ 10-26-2000 12:08 AM

Ashman,

Very cool car u got...mine is silver, with
215/45/17 evo II...
Tks for the advise, i really hope by dilluting it with a lower octane gas could solve my problem...

Thanks

LarryBible 10-26-2000 07:04 AM

It sounds to me like the only way that the fuel could have caused the rich running condition is if it caused some damage. I am suspicious of this being the case.

Incorrect octane has nothing to do with fuel mixture. If the octane is inadequate, you will get preignition and possibly the damage that goes along with preignition.

If the fuel caused the problem, it's too late to correct it by changing fuel.

Good luck,

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johngray 10-26-2000 07:24 AM

Using a higher octane fuel than is necessary to prevent "ping" or octane rattle is usually a waste of money but I have never heard of it damaging an engine or any part of its fuel system. I would seek a second opinion.

stevebfl 10-26-2000 02:02 PM

Well you should never say never. There is one way that higher octane fuel could hurt mixture. It depends on what was used to enhance the octane rating. Fuel distributors could be very susceptible to Methanol additives even Ethanol in too large of proportions cause corrosion in fuel systems. The stainless diaphragm in the fuel distributors has been known to corrode through.

Other than the corrosive properties of octane enhancers no other relationship exists between mixture and octane.


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420SEL 10-26-2000 02:54 PM

Aside, from what Steve mentioned, I don't think high octane is your problem. I use 97 octane all the time and have no problems. There are many reasons you engine could be running rich. Check your airpump. It may not be your problam, but it was mine. With the system inoperable the engine runs rich, usually until hot. I had the same problem, black smoke if I really hit the gas hard, rough idle, etc. My air pump was shot. On of the hoses that leads from it to the engine block corroded off the block so the extra air it pumps into wasn't getting in. Since the hose was broken off water got into the air pump and ruined it. Long story short new hoses and valves and new air pump equals no more problems. No rough idle, no smoke during hard acceleration. It take two minutes to do a visual inspection. Not much to lose from doing it.

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