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Old 08-23-2004, 11:42 PM
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91 300SE engine revs

Could Anyone Tell Me What Their Engine Revolutions Are When Driving 70-75 Mph....my Engine Hums And Whines Along At About 3600rpm At Those Speeds. Is This Normal ?

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Old 08-24-2004, 12:01 AM
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Yes. Mine turns about 3000 rpm at 60 - 65 mph. Don't exceed redline and it'll be OK.
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Old 08-24-2004, 12:04 AM
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I see 3400 rpm at 70mph - same car in this regard.

The 300-SEL has the small motor - same used more or less as the one in many 124 series cars, only now in a much heavier car.

You either need cubic inches or rpms to get a car rolling down the road. Seeing as how MB put a small motor in a heavy body, they had to spin the motor faster.

The 420SEL/560SEL are V-8's. Fewer RPMs at 70mph.
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Old 09-08-2004, 09:42 PM
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Just wondering- where do these cars redline? 3600 RPMs at 70-75 seem extreme. I am considering one of these cars and will be driving it on the freeway often. Is it loud at these speeds?

My 90 Lexus only turns about 2000 rpms (maybe 2500 - I will have to check) at 60 mph and I think 3000 rpms are not until about 75-80 mph, if I recall correctly, but it is a V8- guess thats the difference.
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Old 09-08-2004, 10:12 PM
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Redline on the M103 is 6000rpm. There's no way a 300SE/L can get to or exceed redline in top gear. As to the Lexus reference, a 300SE/L can't keep up with an ES300.

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Old 09-09-2004, 12:11 AM
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Thanks Sixto.
My Lexus is a 1990 LS400, with the V8. I noticed you mentioned ES300, which is a 3.0L V6, (same engine as the Camry), so is the 3.0L Mercedes at least as powerful as that? I am sure that the 90 S-Class (even std. wheelbase) is a lot heavier than the smaller Lexus ES300, so it may be about the same power, but the heavier Mercedes may seem slower.

If I get the 90 300SE, I do not mind the lower power. I have never had my LS over 4000 RPMS, as there has never been a need. If I recall- it redlines at 6500.
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Old 09-09-2004, 01:10 AM
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An ES300 will waste a 300SE/L when it comes to performance and fuel economy. But the ES is a much smaller car. I didn't have the chance to do an extended comparison of my 91 300SE vs an LS but the SE beat the LS at purchase time

Hums and whines? The 300SE/L engine is certainly revving on the freeway. I rather enjoyed the hum since the engine was so smooth. The only whining in my SE came from me wondering why the car wasn't capable of better fuel mileage. I don't think I ever saw 20 mpg even in highway driving. Under the same heavy foot the S420 is capable of 20 mpg on the open road.

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Old 09-09-2004, 01:25 AM
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My '88 300sel is red lined at 6200 rpm , and the rev limiter comes on at around 7000 - 7200 .
No trouble cruising this car all day at 4000 , just the law objects
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Old 09-09-2004, 02:28 PM
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I think the German and American use of redline are different. I grew up in Germany and I can tell you that the 300se sold in Germany was expected to run continuously at near full throttle indefinitely on the autobahn. That's why Germans bought fast cars. To drive fast. To buy a 120mph car and only drive it at 70mph was inconceivable.
Redline in American cars is more an indication of where catastrophic failure can occur. I saw more than a few American cars run well below redline at continuous high speed on the autobahn grenade themselves because they weren't designed to operate at near full throttle at 5000rpm even though redline was indicated as 6000rpm.

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Old 09-09-2004, 10:18 PM
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No need to worry about RPM's

When I bought my first Mercedes (a used '88 260e) the first thing I noticed was the high rpm's on the highway. I was used to my Volvo that ran about 2500 rpm at 65. Now, after driving the car for 4 years, I appreciate the passing power afforded by the high revs and actually feel uncomfortable driving a low revving car.

Noise is not a problem as a previous post mentioned. The engines run very smooth at high speeds and the cars are well soundproofed. The tach is normally the only indicator of what the engine speed it.
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Old 09-09-2004, 10:23 PM
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I'll have to check again tomarrow but I think my SDL runs up around 3k rpm at 70-75 mph. With the radio on even the SDL is very quite inside.

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