Guys I am a new member here. I am looking at a '93 300E with 116k miles, $6500. This will be my first Mercedes.

The car has a clean Carfax. The owner is selling it due to age (they are seniors). The car has no maintenance records; at least that's what she says. I am going to look at it on Saturday. They bought it without the maintenance records and haven't driven it too much. The Carfax says it wouldn't pass smog back in January of this year but the next entry says it did pass. I really wonder about the accuracy of Carfax becuase the only information in there is whatever was reported to the DMV.

It looks really clean in the photos. Owner's daughter is using it as a daily driver until it sells. Daughter has four other Mercedes. She says it drives perfectly. Owner's daughter says none of her Mercedes have Carfax maintenance histories either because the local MB dealer (Sangera) does not report data to Carfax, and neither do the local indy service shops.

I have studied the forums here looking for problems indigenous to the 300E and I haven't found any (yet...). What do I need to look for on this vehicle? Does this car have the infamous wiring loom insulation problem? Or the head gasket problem? Or the AC evaporator problem? I am a pretty good DIY mechanic so I could handle most problems that come along, outside of a transmission rebuild or anything that requires an $800 special tool.

Thanks for any thoughts or ideas you might have about this particular model - I really appreciate your help and time.

Pete Chandler
Bakersfield, California

1993 300E's are misbadged. MB changed the engine from the 3.0 liter M103 engine to the 3.2 liter M104 engine. In 1994, this car was rebadged as an E320. So, when you do a search, you need to include 1993 300E's with 1994-1995 E320's.

Thus, all of the problems that occur on '94-'95 E320's also exist on this year. The big issues are:

1. engine wiring harness problem.
2. oil leaking at the head gasket (if it has original gasket).

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Paul S.

2001 E430, Bourdeaux Red, Oyster interior.
79,200 miles.

1973 280SE 4.5, 170,000 miles. 568 Signal Red, Black MB Tex. "The Red Baron".

Carfax does not have maintenance records - just title, registration, emissions and in some cases accidents - it varies by state. Do you know if the car is a 3.2 or a 2.8 liter? A 3.2 has leather interior whereas a 2.8 had MB tex (leatherette) with leather optional, but most had Tex. The 3.2 had 217 hp while the 2.8 had 194. This is not a real big deal as the 2.8 is a perfectly good car - and MB tex wears very well. You've already picked up on the major problems of the car - wiring harness, head gasket, evaporator. Both 2.8 and 3.2 are 104 motors and have basically the same problems. But both very good motors once you get these things sorted out - and chances are good that they already have been. As bad as the market is that price would reflect a really nice clean car in good running condition.

Get the VIN off of the car and go to your local MB dealer and have them run a vehicle history on it (VMI). Some of the known problems may have been addressed under warranty already. You won't get a maint history, but you should see all the warranty work that was done by any MB dealership.

I have a 93 3.2 and the evaporator and wiring harness were replaced under warranty around the 50K mark. These are fantastic cars if you can find the right one. I've had mine for about a year and a half and have had no major issues. They are a blast to drive, and if you can do the work , you'll do great with this car.

good luck.

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1993 300E
1999 E320 Estate

Guys thanks for the great replies. I have a couple questions:

1) Is the new/replacement head gasket an upgraded or improved gasket?
2) Same with the wire loom - is it shielded against heat breakdown, or otherwise improved over the original harness? Assuming the wire loom was not replaced, is this a plug-and-play affair, or is there a bunch of splicing?

Thanks ! ! ! Pete

The new head gaskets are improved...and not all W124s have the failure.

I haven't had to deal with mine...yet.

The wiring harness is also improved...uses standard insulation material instead of the "environmentally-friendly" type...which disintegrated far sooner than expected. It is plug-n-play, but pretty extensive, so it will not be a quick install.

Other possible issues with the 300E:

Cracked plastic inlet radiator neck. No real fix except to replace the whole radiator with the improved unit (reinforced metal sleeve in same area).

Leaky timing cover seals...new seals solve this, but a bit tricky to install correctly w/o leaks.

Broken window slider on rear window assemblies...prevents rear windows from going completely up. Replacement parts cheap and DIY installation simple.

Headrests don't go up...easy fix and cheap part too. Removing front seatback to gain access easy, but not intuitive.

At the mileage you are looking at, wear and tear are more of an issue...expect over time, coolant pump, alternator, MAS...

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2009 ML350 (106K) - Family vehicle
2001 CLK430 Cabriolet (80K) - Wife's car
2005 BMW 645CI (138K) - My daily driver
2016 Mustang (32K) - Daughter's car

What GBenz said.

I also have not had a head gasket issue yet, and I'm at about 93K. My VMI did indicate that the radiator was replaced at some point, and yes one of my headrests does not retract. I have not however had the enthusiasm for taking the back off of the seat.

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1993 300E
1999 E320 Estate