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Old 11-14-2004, 08:56 AM
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Gas fouling #4 cylinder

After repairing a timing chain and doing a valve job on left head, the #4 plug gas fouls almost instantly upon startup, I have double checked timing of valves and ignition, swapped injectors, swapped wires, ran compression tests, even swapped pipes from injection dist from cyl 3 to 4. The trouble always returns to cylinder 4. I removed the intake manifold to see if there was an error in installation. Looks right and the gasket is well imprinted. Any ideas?

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Old 11-14-2004, 01:47 PM
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I'm not an expert, but it sounds like either you're getting no spark or air in Cyl #4. How many cylinders do you have? If you have 8, maybe you're running on 7 without knowing. Depending on your car, it may be possible to see whether the spark plugs work by putting the ground electrode on your engine head while someone cranks the ignition a few turns. If you are getting spark, then you're probably not getting any air.

Btw, by gas fouling, are you talking about wet, clear fuel? Or are are you talking about a form of carbon fouling--wet or dry black soot? If it's carbon fouling, then none of what I said above applies....
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Old 11-14-2004, 02:27 PM
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It would help a great deal, if you provide us with the year & model of your car.
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Old 11-14-2004, 03:50 PM
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Check the cap and the plug connector/resistor at 4
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Old 11-14-2004, 09:25 PM
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ok, it is a 1985 380 se. V8. the cylinder in question is on the passenger side closest to the firewall. I did not mention new wires etc as that seemed the simple first step. there is indeed spark and even new plugs do not fire. when pulled out they reek of gas and are soaked in the stuff. The valves do indeed open and close. I do have a bit of experience with engines and it seems to me it should run. A bit of a puzzler.??
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Old 11-14-2004, 09:40 PM
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Different info..
Your first post indicated you are having a #4 problem on passenger side and you did the head on the left side?
Now, you say all the plugs on that side are fuel fouled or is it still just #4 ?

What did you have on your comp readings?
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Old 11-14-2004, 09:51 PM
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there is only one spark plug that gets soaked with gas, it is ps closest to firewall. the drivers side plugs and front 3 on passenger side are fine. and yes there is a noticeable skip. compression readings run 175-180 psi

Last edited by fred; 11-14-2004 at 09:52 PM. Reason: forgot compression readings
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Old 11-14-2004, 09:54 PM
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Ok .....So, the head you did is on the drivers side..correct?

You said you did comp test .. what did you get on 4 and how did it compare to the others?????????
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Old 11-14-2004, 09:57 PM
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OK
You slipped that comp edit in on me while I was responding.

My guess is you have a couple of switched plug wires
Check the firing order and cap for order sequence...
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Old 11-15-2004, 12:18 AM
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Firing Order

Yes, if you're getting spark on the #4 wire, but still get wet gas on the plugs when you put it in, then you probably do have the firing order mixed up....

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