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Evan 07-08-2005 05:47 PM

'01 C320, Will it run with bad altenator?
 
I have a 2001 Mercedes C320.... Latley when idling, my car will just shut off. No harsh running, no choking. It just shuts off. After many attempts at restarting the vehicle it will finally start back up like nothing was wrong. The check engine light will remain on after i start it... After the vehicle has sat for 2-3 hours and the car is restarted, the engine light is off..

NOW...

Today on the way home im at a stop light, and my car just dies at the stop light, again, no choking...

However this time I noticed a warning light come on the says "BATTERY/ALTENATOR VISIT WORKSHOP!" it flashed in red and the went off. After about 10 minutes of turning the engine over it started as if there was no problem at all..

My first question is
If the altenator fails on this vehicle, will the car remain running off battery power or is it not like the old cars?

Does anyone have any ideas what this could be?

What can I check?

MB STARS 07-08-2005 06:13 PM

It will run until battery juice out,have someone check your alternator.

Evan 07-08-2005 06:23 PM

Yes but will the altenator cause the car to just shut off without any signs?
The battery wasent dead, it turned over fast after it konked out.

MB STARS 07-08-2005 06:27 PM

I will read the code from your OBDII to start diagonstics why the engine shut off on you.

Evan 07-08-2005 07:36 PM

How are you going to do that?

MB STARS 07-08-2005 07:42 PM

Goto AUTOZONE to have codes pull for free.

Moneypit SEL 07-08-2005 07:44 PM

I'd guess that the alternator light is a result of the engine shutdown, and not the cause. Find out what trouble codes are stored in the computer, and go from there.

Evan 07-08-2005 07:50 PM

I wish i had some way to pull the faults.

Johnhef 07-08-2005 08:08 PM

If your belt is fine and in good shape, your alternator isnt putting out enough to satisfy the ME control unit. take a voltage reading of the battery with the engine running, and again at 3000 rpm and report back.

The shutting off thing sounds like a bad crank sensor, especially if there are no codes.

My guesses without seeing the car: replace the voltage regulator on the alternator and replace the crank sensor and your problems will be fixed.

Evan 07-08-2005 08:16 PM

Where is the crank sensor located and is it easy to change?

Johnhef 07-08-2005 08:28 PM

Its on the drivers side of the engine, near the trans bellhousing, but still on the engine block. Kind of a pain to get to. You'll need an E8 socket to undo the bolt that holds it in.

Evan 07-08-2005 08:37 PM

John, Im glad you brought up the Crank Position Sensor. I work for VW, and everytime a VW has the problem my car is having, it is always the Crank Pos Sensor. Makes a lot of sense. i will go first thing in the morning to have the faults pulled.

What faults am I looking for?

Johnhef 07-08-2005 08:47 PM

As far as the crank sensor problem, it might not have set any faults. 90% of the time it won't. I'm not sure if the regulator will set a code or not, but if you got a battery message in the cluster, it had to have set something. Get a printout of what your codes are and post it.

What are the voltage readings on your battery with it off, running, and at 3K??

Evan 07-08-2005 08:53 PM

Yea, after my car acts up and i let it sit and cool, usually the light is off. I wonder if it automatically sets readiness code.

ozzy 07-08-2005 09:15 PM

Is your car built before 07/01 or after? The pre 07/01 eng m112 had a problem with the connector on the crank sensor, not sealing and allows moisture in. There's an updated plug available, p/n A 112 150 01 33

ozzy


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