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recall question 400E
Does anyone know what the recalls are for a 1993 400E concerning the engine harness? I had some work done on something I think might have been recalled, plus I need to find out if the other recalls have been addressed. Does anyone know how I would go about doing this?
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MB Wiring Harness Failure .
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Any MB dealer can do a VMI (vehicle master inquiry) for your VIN & see if there are any outstanding recalls for that car!
Really doubt if any recall happens for the wiring harness problems on the 1992-96 cars as recalls happen for SAFETY related problems! Never seen or heard of any of those cars having under hood fires!
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MERCEDES Benz Master Guild Technician (6 TIMES) ASE Master Technician Mercedes Benz Star Technician (2 times) 44 years foreign automotive repair 27 Years M.B. Shop foreman (dealer) MB technical information Specialist (15 years) 190E 2.3 16V ITS SCCA race car (sold) 1986 190E 2.3 16V 2.5 (sold) Retired Moderator |
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Even given, as it sounds, like you've never considered this issue serious enough to file a complaint of your own. Is that right Doc? Tell me, as a "27 YEARS DEALER M.B. Shopforeman," how many complaints could you alone have added to the NHTSA's database? http://users.adelphia.net/~infoage1/complaints_nhtsa_mercedes_wiring_harness_failures_1992_1995.html NHTSA Complaint Summary Make: MERCEDES BENZ Model: E CLASS Type: ANY Year: 1994 Complaint Number: 10128437 Summary: 1994 E320 HAD INTERMINTENT RUNNING PROBLEMS. CAR WOULD STALL WITHOUT WARNING, ESPECIALLY DURING A RAIN OR AFTER WASHING THE CAR. REPLACED MANY PARTS(MASS AIR METER, TUNE UP, OVP RELAY, FUEL PUMP RELAY, ETC) TO CHASE THE PROBLEM, NONE OF WHICH SOLVED IT. BEGAN TO LOOK ON MERCEDES FORUMS AND FOUND THIS TO BE A COMMON PROBLEM. BEFORE I REPLACED THE ENGINE WIRING HARNESS IT BEGAN TO SMOKE HEAVILY FROM UNDER THE HOOD. I HAD AN EXTINGUSIHER WITH ME AND STOPPED IT FROM CATCHING FIRE. MERCEDES COVERED PART OF THE COST UNDER THEIR "GOODWILL" PROGRAM HOWEVER I HAD TO INSTALL IT WHICH TOOK ABOUT 8 HOURS. THE FIRST OCCURANCE HAPPEND AROUND 125K MILES HOWEVER IT WAS MANY MONTHS AND MILES LATER THAT THE PROBLEM WAS FIXED. NHTSA Complaint Summary Make: MERCEDES BENZ Model: 300 Type: ANY Year: 1991 Complaint Number: 511109 Summary: ELECTRICAL WIRING OVERHEATED, CAUSING FIRE. NHTSA Complaint Summary Make: MERCEDES BENZ Model: 300SE Type: ANY Year: 1991 Complaint Number: 10011882 Summary: CONSUMER NOTICED SMOKE COMING FROM UNDER THE HOOD. THE VEHICLE CAUGHT ON FIRE AND WAS TOTALED. THE FIRE INSPECTOR INDICATED THE FIRE WAS CAUSED BY THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM. *JB NHTSA Complaint Summary Make: MERCEDES BENZ Model: 300SE Type: ANY Year: 1991 Complaint Number: 10040933 Summary: UNDER-HOOD FIRE TOTALED CAR. FIRE DEPT. REQUIRED TO EXTINGUISHED FIRE. FIRE STARTED WHILE CAR WAS BEING DRIVEN. CAUSE UNDETERMINED. NHTSA Complaint Summary Make: MERCEDES BENZ Model: 420 Type: ANY Year: 1991 Complaint Number: 706220 Summary: Crash: NO Fire: YES No Summary NHTSA Complaint Summary Make: MERCEDES BENZ Model: 320 Type: ANY Year: 1995 Complaint Number: 898986 Summary: WHILE TRAVELING APPROXIMATELY 30 MPH SMOKE STARTED COMING OUT FROM UNDERNEATH HOOD OF VEHICLE. DEALERSHIP EXAMINED VEHICLE, AND DETERMINED THERE WAS A POWER SURGE IN ELECTRICAL SYSTEM THAT CAUSED A FIRE TO START. *AK *YH NHTSA Complaint Summary Make: MERCEDES BENZ Model: SL Type: PASSENGER CAR Year: 1994 Complaint Number: 10074940 Summary: THE WIRING HARNESS TO THE ENGINE CONTROL SYSTEM DEVELOPED SEVERE SHORTS, STALLED THE ENGINE, DISABLED THE ABS, ASR,SRS SYSTEMS. WITH ENGINE STALLED, STEERING AND BRAKING WERE DIFFICULT AND RESULTED IN FRONT END DAMAGE FROM IMPACT TO ROADSIDE BRUSH AND DIRT. WIRING INSULATION INSIDE THE WIRING BUNDLES HAD CRUMBLED TO DUST IN MANY PLACES FAR REMOVED FROM THE SHORT/MINOR FIRE. CAR STILL NOT OPERABLE DUE TO OTHER MAJOR WIRING HARNESS SHORTS DUE TO CRUMBLING INSULATION ON THE WIRES (HIDDEN BY THE BUNDLE JACKET) DEALER RESPONSE TOUGH IF YOU HAD BOUGHT IT FROM US, AND IT WAS NEW, MAYBE, OTHERWISE GOOD BYE!*AK
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Safety Recalls
TSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title 95-0223 MAR 95 Recall - Wiring Harness Chafing/Shorting 95V031000 FEB 95 Recall 95V031000: Wire Harness Protecter Installation CMP94-0123 FEB 94 Recall - Canister Vent Line Rerouting 94V004000 JAN 94 Recall 94V004000: Canister Vent Line Rerouting 93V108000 JUN 93 Recall 93V108000: Air Bag Non-Compliance I found this on alldata.com. Is this something else, or am I just crazy? http://www.alldata.com/TSB/35/93355320.html Let me know what you guys think. Thanks. |
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Are you asking should there be a safety recall for DEFECTIVE wiring harnesses?
My answer is NO! Should there have been a service campaign due to MB using defective wiring? YES. MB is a BIG boy & they should stand behind their product for the 15 years. They offered a "goodwill" replacement up until 2001.
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MERCEDES Benz Master Guild Technician (6 TIMES) ASE Master Technician Mercedes Benz Star Technician (2 times) 44 years foreign automotive repair 27 Years M.B. Shop foreman (dealer) MB technical information Specialist (15 years) 190E 2.3 16V ITS SCCA race car (sold) 1986 190E 2.3 16V 2.5 (sold) Retired Moderator |
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Thilly...
That recall is for a totally unrelated component. It is for a harness located in the passenger compartment, I believe in the driver's footwell. It wasn't properly protected and abrasion could occur. It is not for the engine wiring harness. They're replace the the harness if needed and add the require protection. But for the engine harness, you're up the creek... Haven't you posted this question before? I suppose it was lost in the data fiasco. But this post seems very familiar.
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apparently questioning a recall is like questioning God. I had posted it and the thread was totally removed. What does that mean a "goodwill" recall? Aside from "questioning god", I was trying to find out how to check to see if any other recalls had been performed on my car and how to get them done if they haven't been performed. Thanks.
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