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Old 12-19-2005, 09:58 PM
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Newbie has 300se mixture question

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Recently purchased a 1989 300se (167K) and have noticed that that mpg has sank from 20 to around 14. We adjusted the mixture screw a little (not much) to run a little richer. Car starts normal, however from a dead stop the car chokes a little when I open the throttle. Also, the "economy" gauge needle sits about 1/3 of the way from the left when at idle. Idle rpm is normal, we checked.

Question: Is this normal? This is my first Benz and I don't really know how to judge performance and economy. Any help is appreciated!
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:54 PM
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If the vacuum gauge is low like that, you almost certainly have vacuum leaks, which you need to find and fix. Climate control and door locks are prime suspects as well as the engine fittings and hoses. These will totally screw the car's running.

Next, you can't just adjust the mixture because it is electronically controlled. You use a meter with a duty cycle or an old-style dwell meter. There are literally hundreds of posts on this. Getting the mixture right by setting the on-off ratio is the basic first step in getting these cars to run right.
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Vacuum gauge? I'm assuming that's the "economy" needle that you're referring to. Where should it be located at idle?
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The economy meter is in fact a vacuum guage. It should be close to "pegged" at idle.
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OK, do you mean the needle should be buried to the left or right?
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Left - it should go down when you accelerate.
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