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poetmindzone 08-15-2006 05:09 PM
w123 self leveling suspension conversion
 
i have looked all over to find out about a conversion on my w123 estate i cant use the self leveling as i have a 2.4 diesel engine it a 280te estate and the diesel engine is a older one without the hydraulic pump attached to the engine

i no that i can put bigger springs and normal shockers but what will fit please please help as my back end is sagging

a very proud owner of a real classy merc

lkchris 08-15-2006 06:20 PM
No known conversions exist.

Won't be so classy if converted, either.

poetmindzone 08-16-2006 03:10 AM
it can be done
 
i no it can be done has i have already part done it but the springs i have are to weak the shock are from a 126 model and fit fine just need to redrill the cover that goes over the top of the shocks its just the springs that i need
they just need to be heavy duty and around 3 to 4 inchs taller than the originals i am from the uk and volvo vw audi must have something similar:D

sixto 08-16-2006 11:39 AM
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/136632-sls-spring-conversion-kit-interest.html

Sixto
... stay tuned

poetmindzone 08-16-2006 02:58 PM
change of heart
 
i have been told that i can put a 240 dielsel cyclinder head with the hydrloic pump system on my 240 1975 diesel is this right as i would rather have the self leveling system

so question as anyone got one and how much would it cost:idea2:

still classy merc love it wife hates it lol got the neibour talking

sixto 08-16-2006 03:04 PM
240TDs are as rare as hen's teeth in the US. Maybe www.pgauto.com can help you.

You might present a 300TD head and 240D head to a machine shop and see if they can move the pump. Most 617 heads have bosses for an SLS pump. Seems like you have to drill and tap some holes and put a wobble drive on the cam sprocket. Maybe the same is true with the 616 head.

Consider a tandem (power steering/SLS) pump from a 300TE since parts are more readily available.

Sixto
... stay tuned

lkchris 08-16-2006 04:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sixto (Post 1247858)

Never came together, did it?

dmorrison 08-16-2006 09:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by poetmindzone (Post 1247233)
i have looked all over to find out about a conversion on my w123 estate i cant use the self leveling as i have a 2.4 diesel engine it a 280te estate and the diesel engine is a older one without the hydraulic pump attached to the engine

I no that i can put bigger springs and normal shockers but what will fit please please help as my back end is sagging

a very proud owner of a real classy merc
When you say W123 "estate", I assume your in Great Britian. Estate was not used in the U.S.

I know that certian wagons came without SLS in the W123 world wide. Might I suggest you go to a local Mercedes dealer and inquire about the none SLS wagon setup. Get the part numbers for everything needed for the conversion. And if you do PLEASE post them here for us in the U.S.

Dave

PS If you are not in Great Britian, then never mind.:D

mbdoc 08-17-2006 08:33 AM
The "T" 123 chassis is an easy conversion from self-leveling..have the springs replaced with the springs from a sedan & also the shocks......

The spring part number is 123-324-36-04 & the shocks are up to you..HD Bilsteins are the best route.

BF_JC230 08-17-2006 01:57 PM
2 Attachment(s)
I have these springs...
123-324-35-04 - 1

Don't know if this will work or not but they are for sale...
Jake

poetmindzone 08-17-2006 03:22 PM
nobody knows
 
hi your right i was stupid i like to say sorry to you all and apolagise for my own lack of knowledge

no excuse just very frustrated as i havent had the car long and its been on the ramps more than on the road so once again so sorry

:behead:

Dee8go 08-17-2006 04:12 PM
Easy, big fella
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by poetmindzone (Post 1249170)
i cant believe that this is one of the most comman questions
but no one really know the answer
it cant be that hard to do
i suppose ill have to be the first to find out by going to the scrap yard and looking ar every spring in there
there must be a pair of springs out there that fit and shocks to match to make it into a standard car i have half done the job but the spings are not strong enough
. . .
come on you brainyhaks let go of your knowledge and give me a a simple answer instead of link after link of worthless talk :stupid:
Didn't M.B. Doc just answer your question? His reply didn't sound inconclusive or tentative to me.

mbdoc 08-17-2006 04:13 PM
Try reading my post!!! go back 2 posts

And on this forum we don't berate each other like you have.

sixto 08-17-2006 04:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by poetmindzone (Post 1249170)
i cant believe that this is one of the most comman questions but no one really know the answer
You have to read between the lines. I suspect many who looked into it decided that MB engineers knew what they were doing.

Brian Carlton had a heck of a time getting his SDL to sit right with factory springs. He gave up and had coils turned to his specification. You should be the brave corsair of the TD world and have springs custom made, then offer a group purchase so no one asks the question you just asked :)

Sixto
... stay tuned

dmorrison 08-17-2006 06:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by poetmindzone (Post 1249170)
i cant believe that this is one of the most comman questions
but no one really know the answer
it cant be that hard to do
i suppose ill have to be the first to find out by going to the scrap yard and looking ar every spring in there
there must be a pair of springs out there that fit and shocks to match to make it into a standard car i have half done the job but the spings are not strong enough

shocks from a w126 fit great

just need a pair of stiffer spring dont care if from a morris minor as long as do job

come on you brainyhaks let go of your knowledge and give me a a simple answer instead of link after link of worthless talk :stupid:
This is not how we treat each other on this forum. If someone had done this conversion completely, it would probably be a DIY link at the top. Attitude is everything, and your attitude needs adjusting.

Dave


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