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VegasJetta 11-04-2006 06:17 PM

93 300SE: Grey Market? Info?
 
Just got this 1993 Benz 300 SE (thats what the PO calls it) and it has some wierd things about it.
Ecode headlights
Euro plate mounts
Wierd interior bits
No VIN on the dash
What could this be? Grey market?

Now, the problem is, someone decided to rig the INJECTOR harness when the wires dryrotted and cracked. They thought it would be a good idea to just wrap them with electrical tape. I have pics posted below of THAT mess.

Right now, the idle is rough, and it hesitates when you step on the gas, and I have noticed lowered fuel economy. I would think that it is 99% the fault of those wires to the injectors, wouldn't you?
Where do I go to get a new wire harness for this thing? There are none in the yards here.
Can anyone give me some info on this beast? Any stuff to look out for? I hear the rear suspension can be expensive to fix, as well as the AC system.

I am also told that this is not the correct speedometer for the car.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...z/IMG_7403.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...z/IMG_7401.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...z/IMG_7420.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...z/IMG_7407.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...z/IMG_7409.jpg
The great idea:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...z/IMG_7415.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...z/IMG_7416.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...z/IMG_7405.jpg
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sixto 11-04-2006 08:50 PM

Other indicators of Euro-ness are fabric seat upholstery (I've never seen or heard of a US W140 with fabric upholstery), flat face wheels (not offered on US W140s) and activated charcoal cabin filter (very infrequent option on a, please forgive me, low end S-class).

I would think a US spec 300SE harness would have very good to perfect fitment. You might have to content with a sensor or two out of place but it'll probably be an improvement over what you have now.

Let me know if you decide to switch wheels. I like how those wheels look on a W140.

Sixto
93 300SD

sixto 11-04-2006 09:00 PM

The headlight leveling switch is also a giveaway. Some US models have automatic leveling headlights, never a manual thumbwheel.

Sixto
93 300SD

atikovi 11-05-2006 07:44 PM

Never seen an 8,000 rpm tach on a W140. Here is the cluster on my '95 S280 gray market:
http://fototime.com/666F0489286E640/standard.jpg

VegasJetta 11-11-2006 12:38 PM

Ok, Thanks for all the info, guys. The car is now at the shop gettin rewired, and they have run into a problem. The harness to the injectors is totally dryrotted and brittle all the way to the main plug. I need the harness! does anyone have one, or know where I can get one cheaper than the 420 bucks I have been quoted?

syljua 11-11-2006 06:51 PM

And if you check the VIN at; http://www.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/?lng=eng
you will get;

Code:

VIN        WDB1400321A120260
Model        300 SE 3.2
Chassis        1400321A120260
Engine        104990 12 052538
Transmission        722368 03 821910
Order        0 2 221 04998
Approx. year        1992
Lights        BOSCH
Wiper        BOSCH
Cab        20888
Dealer        Koeln branch (221)
Interior        cloth black (061)
Paint
744        brilliant silver metallic (с 1991)
Options
260        elimination of model designation on rear lid (с 01.05.1968)
282        ski bag (inboard loading facility) (с 01.07.1989)
291        airbag for front passenger
airbag for driver and front passenger (с 01.07.1987 по 30.09.1993)
airbag for driver and front passenger (if driver airbag standard - then only for passenger)
306        activated charcoal filter (odor filter) (с 01.01.1990)
310        antenna with splitter for car phone net C, on left rear fender (с 01.02.1986)
antenna with splitter for car phone net C, on left rear fender; s 124, on right rear fender
404        orthopaedic front seat backrest (multiple contour backrest in model 140), left (с 01.04.1970 по 31.12.1995)
420        automatic transmission, floor shift (с 01.01.1963)
471        acceleration skid control (ASR) (с 01.07.1984)
551        anti-theft warning system (с 01.11.1978 по 31.03.1998)
581        automatic climate control (с 01.01.1977)
590        heat-insulating glass, all-around, heated rear window pane (laminated glass), Germany
green heat-insulating glass all round, heated rear window, laminated safety glass - Germany (с 01.01.1972)
682        fire extinguisher (с 01.04.1970)
750        Becker radio Europa 2000 vk (с 01.06.1990 по 31.03.1994)
857        new shift-/selector lever generation br 140 (с 01.01.1990)
873        seat heater for left and right front seats (с 01.02.1984)

So you can see that it was ordered from a dealer in Köln, Germany.
Have you checked out the ski-loading in the trunk?:wacko:

I also think that the instruments have been replaced with a later one
with digital odometer.

br,
syljua

sixto 02-17-2007 08:23 PM

I came back to this post to check the pics again.

Looking at the option list, what is "ski bag (inboard loading facility)?" Does it have a hole through the fuel tank for this???

Sixto
93 300SD 3.0

Stoney 02-17-2007 09:48 PM

Ski Bag
 
Should be a pass thru panel behind the rear center armrest that allows skis to be slid thru the rear seat back and into the center passenger area and allow the trunk to close.

BTW I have done a small sub woofer box install in this location for a friend and it works very well.

sixto 02-17-2007 11:08 PM

Well, yes but there's a fuel tank between the cabin and the trunk.

Sixto
93 300SD 3.0

uberwgn 02-18-2007 07:41 AM

Cool car. I hope you bought it very right.

(How could you not know this was grey market prior to writing the check??)

Didn't the USA get a W140 300SE??

sixto 02-18-2007 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uberwgn (Post 1423390)
Didn't the USA get a W140 300SE??

Yes.

Sixto
93 300SD 3.0

Will_w202 02-18-2007 01:41 PM

the old w126-style wheels are a dead giveaway!

I LOVE the option for:

260 elimination of model designation on rear lid (с 01.05.1968)

That's awesome. Don't believe we get that in USA....

syljua 02-20-2007 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixto (Post 1423245)
Well, yes but there's a fuel tank between the cabin and the trunk.

Correct, and that is why a ski-loading equipped car has a 90L tank
instead of 100L. The same goes for the champagne cooler
in the back seat. If you have that, you have the 90L tank also.

http://www.pvv.org/~syljua/merc/w140...eFromTrunk.jpg

It you switch fuel tank, the cluster should be reprogrammed to
take the new capacity into consideration.

Guess it is smart with Champagne in summer and Skis in winter...:-)

Images here;
http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb2.asp?TP=1&F=140032&M=104%2E990++++++994&GA=722%2E368371%2C502508%2C605&GM=717%2E454&CT=F&cat= 19B&SID=47&SGR=015&SGN=01

br,
syljua

suginami 02-20-2007 11:40 AM

Is that fan in the picture part of the champagne cooler?


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