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Yesterday my minimum oil level light came on. When added 1.5 qts of oil I noticed a light brown substance on the oil filler cap. It was about the color of a chocolate milkshake. I have heard this is a sympton of headgasket problems. The car stil runs well. Has anyone experienced this on their 210?
How long can I drive the car as my mechanic is closed for the weekend? Thanks
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Is there any oil in the coolant?
Personally I wouldn't drive it at all. An overheated engine is an expense you don't want. |
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TONS of these engines do this. Dont let it scare you off. Have it checked if you are uncertain but more than likely its just moisture getting in around the filler neck/cap.
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Agreed, the 112/113 engines are famous for this occurring even in marginally cool conditions. The oil filler (under the cap) is plastic and insulates the cap from engine heat, so it becomes a collection point for condensation. I've heard that immediately after a long trip that it won't be there, but after shorter trips, even trips that get the engine up to operating temp for awhile, it will be there. It might collect on the dipstick also.
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Short drives in cold to mederate temp. weather??
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If you do short drives less than 5 miles one way in cold temperature, there may be 'milkshake' buildup under the oil filler cap. This is not necessarily an impending head gasket failure. I occasional see this in my E320 between Jan-april as my daily drive is only 2 miles. In summer, nothing under the cap. First observed about 4 years ago. Howver, you may want to change the $0.2 gasket seal under the filler cap, Also checked your oil filter seal and cap fit. oh BTW, you added 1.5q of makeup oil? I wonder...these cars don't like to be overfilled. |
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It sounds like you may have a case of "minor sludging", as defined by MB standards. At this point, checking for proper crankcase ventilation would be a good idea. If any of the passages in the valve covers or vent lines become even partially restricted, the efficiency of the ventilation system will be affected. When this happens, excessive crankcase pressure will lead to increased oil consumption.
I've followed the MB guidelines to successfully remedy this problem many times. The good news is that it's cheap, and you can probably do it yourself. The valve covers should be removed and any visible sludge (if any) cleaned out. The oil separators should be checked and cleaned as well. After everything is back together, all it takes is a couple of oil and filter changes in rapid succession, with some hard driving in between. It's important that the engine reach operating temperature, and stay there for at least one hour. The car doesn't need to be driven for an hour, it just needs to stay running. MB says repeating this process three times will do the trick. If it were my car, I'd drive it for a few days between oil changes, but that's just my personal opinion. |
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I may want to investigate the partially restricted vent system. Can I clean the vent system without removing the valve cover? Can I use a looooong brush to clear the passages? or removing the cover is the only way. BTW, I only add the remaining 0.5q oil between oil changes. I know there is no excessive oil consumption ( I think). |
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PA2TU, you're wise to change the oil and filter more frequently than MB recommends. As long as you're using an approved oil, this will greatly lessen the chance of sludging. Most of the sludged engines I see haven't been serviced in a timely manner. Based on your oil consumption (.5 quart/8,000 miles) I don't think you have anything to worry about.
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