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No, I couldn't make copy of pink slip
I don't have a copy machine in my pocket I looked at it I remember the plate I have the address I know the name of the tirle holder & seller I saw exectutor on the bill of sale to Cars for Causes Not something I would imagine No biggie It would have been nice to have it but we went straight to AAA to register the car & get plates I had to give them the paperwork.. Frankly, I was just glad to get plates & title!!!! I read that somewhere I think I gaev you the link Might not be true but sawe turning circle... SEC did ok on that street Just as good as the Volvo I was amazed it cleared it as its not that wide of a street Just a noirmal back road. I got the name of Pick your parts from him He does get parts think he said he put in a switch on my car think mirror he showed mne the old anyway it works I got the car Others wanted it The price was fair He has his faults but hews not all bad http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/2188/Specifications.htm turning circle SEC 11.5m so maybe 35 feet??? that waht it says |
Volvo vs Mercedes turning circle - more research
Yikes!! According to this, all 700 Volvos turn in 32'4" - Now that is really tight. No SEC could match that. I thought it was 34' for the Volvo, forgot where I read that or heard it.
http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/turn-circles.shtml For the SEC it is 11.55m What would that be in feet?) per this site I believe you linked it here....hmm http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/2188/Specifications.htm Well, I found a September 1982 review of the 500SEC Euro in the British magazine "CAR" in the article "Clash of the Titans" (SEC vs Aston Martin test) in a magazine I got off ebay england last year and dug it out. quoting: The Mercedes "servop-assisted recirculating ball system, which also needs 3.0 turns, offers a 33 foot turning circle" So, trusting that as credible it seems you are correct - the Euro 500SEC is 33' --that is really nimble and tight. But at 32.4 the Volvo still has a more nimble turning circle, but not by so much. Hopefully that sheds more light on the issue I apologize for being snippy to you about the pink slip remark, it was really uncalled for. |
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a meter is a tad over 3 feet so 11.5 X 3 is close to 35 feet Not bad for a 16 foot car I guess Still even being close to a Volvo is miraclulous as they were made for the winding tight roads of the swiss alps... I know what you mean Sometimes we'd ;ike everytthing to go perfectly but sometimes we just have to make do... |
The SEC can do everything
These big cars are really full of surprises, aren't they.
On my trip to San Francisco, I used it for everything, as a taxi, high speed speed bursts, a kamikaze street fighter in traffic, using the horns and changing lanes quick, nipping into tight parking spaces, and it did everything I asked it to. And on the freeway it cruised beautifully at 90 mph, with the custom made CD my friend Justin had made for me and gave to me at the last Mercedesdiesel drive gtg (Thanks again Justin if you see this) Sometimes you are amazed at the many hats these cars can wear. They are real grand touring cars. And tough old buzzards too, not a squeak or rattle out of them even after really high mileage. And the seats are so comfortable after hours sitting in them, I can tell you. Plus they are uber safe, they can really save you in a wreck. But I don't want to put that feature to the test. The styling of them is really nice, so many times people have said this is the lovliest looking once Mercedes made. Its designer, who designed MANY other models, kept one of these for his personal car, and still drives it in Germany today!! |
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The origianl owners were gettin gthere moneys worth a car that would stand the test of time Lucky for us that they have fell into out hands for a fraction of the orig cost... Seats are really comfy I think I read they have horsehair in them Wow, that's only in the most hi end upolstery Well its a Benz.... I own a Benz & a sporty Euro Benz The coupe is a a beauty ;) Mine may not be perfect but not too many 24 year old cars are Plus it has that cool entinguisher Man that thing stays cool against my legs Even in the hot summer day Haven't used the AC yet just trying to keep the load light til I feel more secure shes running ok I got a airbag abs limited slip diff All those things are safety... The Volvo is a great car but I feel the Benz just gives me a lil more once I am sure how to get it out without grining bottom LOL Just things I have to be careful of... Well the weekedn is here Still scared to take it far ... Really want to get that plate issue resolved.. Arrgh even if I have to get back there & tie it on... Night |
I really like your car because with the airbags, ABS, fire extinguisher, trunk triangle, nice wheels, and euro bumpers, and the High performance euro engine, it's one of the nicest examples you could have.
I haven't seen anything but a couple of pictures of it, but it looks to be pretty much a very well kept car through most of its life, and there are lots of good miles still left in it. Drive it in good health, you seem to have a good handle on it now, as you became an expert really quick to the extent you can now help out others with questions on them. Pretty good for someone whose had one for just a couple of weeks; goodnite Maybe tomorrow you can go to a junkyard and find a couple of license brackets, it would be a good idea to affix them asap or else you could get pulled over. No plates in place is definately probable cause to stop for any cop. They do it all the time, some places cops will use any excuse to stop you so why make their job easier?:bobby: . |
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I have to get the rear license attached It is not at all visible in rear window becasue of the low angle No plated in back really will draw attention I don't want to chance a long trip I'll be worrying aboiut that. I'd rather get the brackets & do it right I probab;y can figure out to access the back could use a wire to affix but that would mean accessing the trunl again when I get brackets Rather do job right first time Could also nut & bolt it from back too Would be permenant lic installation as only way to get that off would be to get behind it again A4rrggh Will get more pics when I get it out & have the time Garage is not that bright & cars look better in sun I did have that hot start problem ;ast time I was out well only time I attempted to use the car. Park & then use it again... Book does mention hot engine restart sometime they start sometimes you have to give gas I have to figure out what it needs... LOL So its not so easy as get inthe car & go Still getting to know it holes in rear for bracket may indeed be same Will have to call the curbstoner see if I can buy his brackets off the 85 500 sel... and ask him "Where are the papers""" :scream: If you look at rear drivers side window you can see lil color change Same type /brand glass but I noticed all the others had M53 this one has M52 Interesting 83 Euro 200 SEL with Km speedo Can see the euro AC controls same as mine Its a manual |
Under the circumstances (now that I know them) clearly it was wise you bought the car just how you did. It was a good one and right there in your neighborhood. The pictures show it to be in excellent cosmetic condition throughout. No wonder there was such interest. Usually sellers lie about that, but this time it was probably true. (Also it served the seller well to sell to a sincere local buyer with cash in hand, and abort the sale, than have to worry about complications of an out of state of long distance sale.)
It is appropriate internet protocol to NOT have posted specific links to the actual ad, in cases like this, so you did correctly in keeping it to yourself to avoid unneeded competition for a very desirable car. I'm sure I probably would have done the same thing, probably in the same way. It is a very excellent car for the money, and a was a wise purchase. Still it was too bad there was no photocopy of the pink; in the AAA probably they would have made one if you asked; the DMV - no. It puts all your earlier posts here in proper perspective, being there were such complicated issues going on about the car, its title, and other things; and the issue of not losing the chance to get it, either, once the problems were addressed. Really there was no way for a prepurchase inspection, and it is a moot point anyhow. A car this long in So. California would have had no rust. Completely unlike buying a generic new Toyota or Taurus from a dealer. It is good it worked out well for you. By any measure it would be considered "well bought". With a HUGE dose of good karma and good luck thrown into the mix. I think you should go ahead and get front and rear plate brackets for this car, and install them forthwith. It is a minor thing, but leaving it undone is an instant attention getting thing (in a bad way) for the police. It is a very real possibility in downtown areas you could get a parking ticket, and a violation for this offense also. Not saying that it will happen, only that it could. It should not be hard to drill the holes needed, even if when the result is done there might be visible holes on the front and rear of the car like you see onn the car now, when the front and rear plates are correctly monted on Mercedes brackets. I would take care of this immediately More congrats on the purchase. I realize it was done under considerable pressure and risk at the time. It seems good that it was a good idea to get started with Mercedesshop when purchasing this car was contemplated. People there are interested and like to help when they can. It is a very good car, and I think a reasonable one even at near twice the price. The only negative being that Manganese Brown was not a popular color new or on resale. But a good condition Euro 500SEC is a good bet. Yours is an excellent one. Except for the wheels, it was not modified or hacked up, which means it was driven gently. All I would put on it is Euro headlights without headlight wipers, and if I ever found one, a factory skidplate (NLA from factory unfortunately) and otherwise I would leave it as is. Just put license plate frames that were free metal and attractive from a Mercedes Benz dealer like Beverly Hills, Calstar or SImonson and then drive it - a lot. |
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Thanks She is in pretty good shape My neighbor drools over her :ukliam3: True chancing a tix is not wise Afterall why pay the city when I can uxe it to buy the parts. Darn its such a simple part too but frustrating. Registering it was such a hi pressure thing Just wanted it to go thru smoothly Didn't want to bring up any complications as it was complicated enough. Lucky I got a real level headed AAA person & she made changes & did editing to make sure the papers were cohesive . I wouldn;t have minded 14 in stock MB wheels I'm a fan of original but it has wheels & they work... Probably better handling w the 16 inch anyway. I just don't really want to deal with jinkyard to junkyard After all how man of them have Benzes junked... Thanks for the vote of confidence As I figured I couldn't really loose as I didn't think it would be too hard to sell it if I changed my mind But I like it even in brown 83 MB paint & touch up http://paintscratch.com/ |
...after all this, I hope you don't sell it!!! (though it showed level headed thinking that if you didn't like it, after a bit, you could turn around it flip it if you decided it was not a perfect fit for you)
Aside from their uneconomical gas consumption, they are good (and very safe) vehicles for everyday driving. And very, very good for long distance trips, a fact of which I was reminded most strongly, just the other day. The front license bracket one you found on ebay looks like a good original equipment one, probably a reasonable one for the buy-it-now price (plus for the shipping costs you would need to pay. For the rear one, you could look for one on ebay and if you can't find one there, simply call up Fast Lane (sponsor of the forum, or Rusty at www.*************** or Randy Steele at www.epsparts.com who are very reputable). Actually, if you would prefer not to scrounge at wrecking yards, for them, it would be worth it to order online, and have them sent to your door, the price would probably be lower than ordering one from your nearest MB dealer parts department. Take a look again at the license bracket for just $12 mentioned and linked in this thread by HTownBenzoBoy in Houston. It looks ingenious and could be a good fit for a Euro car like yours. Worst case is that you gambled and lost $12.00 Or if you can, buy one off the curbstoner that sold you the car, IF he is willing to pull it off another car he has. Actually he had ONE bad feedback, and was noted he had bought a car from the guy and the motor grenaded 5 miles away, on the drive home. NOT exactly confidence inspiring, even though old cars are not guaranteed. Notably he never disputed the buyers assertion or countered the assertion - so it was probably true. But it was a gamble, you buy off a curbstoner, and you can't expect much off of one if something goes bad; maybe the West Virginia warranty: "If the car breaks in half, you get to keep both halves" For a self confessed worrier, you could say you gamble and win every time you drive or park the car and don't get a ticket. But that kind of takes the fun out of driving it around. Also, the Savings of waiting around for the cheapest prices on front and rear license plate brackets would likely evaporate fast, if while waiting, you happened to get pulled over for no plates and couldn't talk your way out of a ticket. The car sticks out like a sore thumb to Police, and could draw them to it like a magnet, in its present state. I would buy the ebay front bracket for $25 and then get the rear one from Phil at Fastlane (he is near you in San Diego, so it should arrive to you quick) and then go to a body shop to have them installed. Pick up a free pair of metal Mercedes Benz dealer frames you selected from a dealer that had attractive ones (many to choose from near you) while you are waiting. Not really worth the bother or trouble to have a body shop paint and plug up the screw holes that are already drilled on the front and rear for the euro plates. You are not intending to impress judges at car shows or something. |
I have no intentions of sellinghttp://sig1.euromotives.com/i/ebay/f/1178307680.jpg
unless of course something unforseeable comes up I thibk I'd rather sell the Volvo. I don't drive enough for one car lest two Still the Volvo is a great get around car Good for hauling potting soil & things :cool: Got the Oem MB front $31 shipped Just hope it fits the Euro Part# 126 817 02 11, http://sig1.euromotives.com/i/ebay/f/1178307679.jpg http://sig1.euromotives.com/i/ebay/f/1178307680.jpg Looks ok if thats a i` inch grid from my esttimation the holes should line up with the ends of mine Will need bolts & washers now As much as I would like the curbstoner to hand over the brackets I can't see taking apart a car he is selling. He had offers for the fire extinguisher He didn't sell it & I was greatful for that So you see he's not all bad. I read that feedback He left negative for the other guy saying the engine was under warranty & called him a idiot for not bringing it to his attention before giving neg feedback. I also located the auction and it was for a 90 VW bus...:grim: What I really want form the curbstoner is those papers & the sheepskin covers that were on the seats that kept them in pristine condition. I really need the back though as wire works in front...LOL Well off to Paypal... I checked those links They didn't have the front which I know part number for. Chances the rear will be the same story... If I can get it reasoanvble enough I;d rather not got to pick your parts & take it off myself but I would figure out how to get to the back & mess up another car first.. :scream: But there is always wire I;ll get back there leave it open til I find it then install it. LEast I won't have to worry about Ole Smoky pulling me over for that... Yeah right Like I;ve been pulled over since I almost ran over Santa not something I want to go thru again. :ukliam3: |
Temporary mounting of rear license plate.
Couple of thoughts on this. So at least the rear plate is displayed.
Until the bracket is located and installed 1. A couple of really strong dual sided flat magnets? 2. Double sided bathroom mirror mounts....(heat & water proof) from hardware store? 3. Industrial strength dual sided adhesive tape like 3M Dual Lock possibly might even work permanently - no drilling required - just center it perfectly Meanwhile I am looking for part # for rear bracket. Perhaps something will turn up:) I found a part # but I think it is for the W123....you could get moving fast with a part number And have noticed incidentally - in LA, especially, Hollywood Blvd, and downtown, the Police ticket moving and parked cars for no front/back plates displayed; Fines seem to be anywhere from $25 -$75 per offense, so it is worth having them - definately. |
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Hmmmm Refrigerator magnets LOL Love it! Duct tape? Why didn;t I think of that? :ukliam3: |
Duct tape = Alabama chrome (the eternal Nascar solution!)
Bingo!!! That just might do it for now!!
Probably would be fine for a little while, a couple of weeks if necessary!!! A good temporary solution - easy to remove when ready for the rear bracket, no permanent damage, and legal motoring meantime. Plus probably no kids will rip off the plate meantime. Great minds think alike!:ukliam3: Note - there is a possible solution that is simple about the two big holes in the euro front bumper. Apparently it is POSSIBLE that there are plugs you can buy for a W126 to fill those holes, and then paint them (manganese brown). Just a rumor at this point, but a strong one. Will let you know if I find out more. The CONCEPT for the bumper plugs is recognized, by Porsche at least: You could email them and ask them where to find them for a W126 euro bumper. see: www.bumperplugs.com |
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May best think about living with prosthetics... :scream: Ohhh, I don't mind about some extra air holes in the bumper Doesn't bother me... That's just the way she is Got to love her for just being a free spirit! :scream: Duct tape Almost got the shuttle to the moon Might just make it to Malibu/// :ukliam3: |
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