Mine starts like a gem stone cold
Whoop
fast strong
but warm or hot...not so good

I'll have to see if the quick try to stat again works

I;m still new to the car & trying to find what will work.

Luckily say of I need gas
I go to the corner & get it
Car hasn't been run long

Luckily both times it started fine at the pump as I hate to be stuck there cranking.

All other times after a short run
car is always over 85 as it runs hot

It's hard to start 20 min an hour even 2 hours

Lots of cranking

I don't want to crank away the battery & starter

the 83 manual specifies
if it doesn't start right up on a hot start to depress acelerator a bit.

So I have been trying that
Still alot of cranking

Yesterday 2nd warm start was a long one
Couldn't get it
so sat a while

then tried again
Still stubborn
caught once then stalled
Finally got it...phew

From what I have heard it could be old leaky injectors
that leak when warm settin gup a flooded situation...

Other problem I have not sure if it could be related

I have a hi idle start in park
Start 1200 rising to 1500 as it warms
then comes down to 900 1000

But on drive its 650 700 so its perfect

Runs strong & smooth
No problem at all
Yesterday it was amazing
cept for restarting
????

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83 500 SEC Euro 198K

Well, back to the same problem. Now the car is hard to start when it is warm, hesitates when the car is warm (but not when cold) from a stop, and occasionally idles roughly.

The car runs flawlessly at speed - no problems. Cold starts are flawless. The first trip of the day is great but performance gets worse as the trips are more frequent (car is warmer).

I was told by the dealer that the car has a "lazy oxygen sensor".

Any ideas?

I have been pressing the pedal halfway down when starting and that seems to help somewhat. Won't start on the first start no matter what except when cold.
This also seems to have helped with the rough idle and hesitation issues as well.

I do notice that when the car is idling, the "economy" gauge is not pegged all the way to the left as it used to be. Is all the way to the left when coasting. Any ideas?

Same problems as before - hard to start, etc. but is now acting as if it is flooding out when starting - but not always. I have recently replaced the fuel accumulator and the fuel governor with no positive results.....
Most times the car will start without a hitch but occasionally it will start but stumble and the black smoke (ie: fuel rich) will roll out of the tailpipe - then it will die as if it is flooding.

Someone suggested it was a mechanical issue as this only occurs maybe once a day and it occurs both on cold starts and hot starts and is very sporadic. I can usually wait 5 minutes and start the car and it is if there is no problem at all.

Any ideas? This has gone on for almost 5 months....

Anyone?!!! It has been 7 months now and I still have not gotten this resolved...

The fuel distributor is worn or the Air flap bearing which pushes against the fuel distributors plunger has seized. The engine is getting fuel but not air.

hard to start when warm can be injectors leaking and causing rich mixture. If holding the throttle open helps, this is because more air is allowed in and the mixture is somewhat corrected. Have the injectors checked or replaced.

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Andrew
300e 294,000mi
380sel 185,998mi
380se 309,980mi

have you replaced the lazy o2 sensor?