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Johnhef 02-10-2008 10:37 PM

I need a 12 step program.
 
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I just couldn't say no!!!

Let me introduce you to the newest addition to the fleet, a 1984 Euro 500SEC. Got it out of Baltimore tonight, Black on Black, 110K on it, SLS, ABS, heated seats, AMG side skits and rear lower spoiler. More pics tomorrow in the light ;) Holy crap this car is fast! really fun to drive home :D

TheDon 02-10-2008 10:50 PM

wants

where do you keep all of your cars?????? is the couch your new bed tonight ;) ..jk

Johnhef 02-10-2008 11:13 PM

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some more of the awesome car of awesomeness

Hit Man X 02-11-2008 01:41 AM

I love the early style valve covers... and that's a slick ride.

Needs the 5.6L dual intake snorkel and TriYs :D

bobs 02-11-2008 07:03 AM

Looks like a great project car. Congrats!

Chadahar 02-11-2008 10:16 AM

I glad someone close grabbed that one. Had I been near I certainly would have.
Good Job!
I think the guy didn't know what he had...Right?

Dee8go 02-11-2008 10:37 AM

Congratulations, John. I'm jealous! I think you have too many SECs . . .Oh wait, that would be impossible to have too many. I can't wait to see it in person.

Zeus 02-11-2008 10:56 AM

Sweet ride! By far though, the most awesome of the awesomest are those pimpin' cookie monster skin seat covers! :D :P

Kidding aside, that is one nice find - congrats!

Dee8go 02-11-2008 11:37 AM

Yeah, the seat covers HAVE to go! What's underneath them? I'm assuming it's not pretty, not if someone put something THAT bad-looking over them.

Johnhef 02-11-2008 10:00 PM

Seats underneath are just about perfect. Interior is in excellent shape aside for a few splits in the dash.

Seriously now I may sell the 380SEC. Still kicking the idea around, anyone have any interest?

meltedpanda 02-11-2008 10:05 PM

nice, had a chance to own one of those, passed it up because the guy wanted too much, but always loved the looks, I probably shoulda bought it just like the
68 T Bird:rolleyes:
63 Falcon:rolleyes:
72 300:rolleyes:

Viva Mexico 02-11-2008 10:43 PM

Congrats, that is one sweet car. :D

Johnhef 02-11-2008 11:31 PM

anyone know what the markings on the back of the cams mean? All I can make out is a "M" and what looks to be a "09"?

Also car still has the factory fire extinguisher, plus some kind of orthopedic seats? I've never seen ones like it before, hand pumps inbetween the seats on each side.

Can anyone run the VIN on the Russian site?
WDB1260441A036264

halman2228 02-11-2008 11:35 PM

Is it good...
 
..to let us congregate?

Perhaps isolation therapy;. no Craig's List access or forums, etc...:D

I just need time to work on everything I already have sitting around.

I went to the Houston GTG the other day - WAY embarrassed at how dirty and "out of shape" my 500 was...

Had a good time anyway - had to slyly close my hood when the others weren't looking though - between Paul's 300SL and an Austin MB Club member's (Lee?) 500SL I was tucking my tail.

I AM going to latch on to an SEC one of these days... couch at night be damned.

Regards,
Kevin

P.S.: Nice find - do us a favor here and post lots of pictures of the new SEC resurrection

G-Benz 02-12-2008 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnhef (Post 1760598)
Seats underneath are just about perfect. Interior is in excellent shape aside for a few splits in the dash.

Seriously now I may sell the 380SEC. Still kicking the idea around, anyone have any interest?

I was looking at an 84 500SEC this weekend...I like your 380 though...I'm interested!

iwrock 02-12-2008 02:02 AM

Good lookin ride!



380 huh.... $$?

Johnhef 02-12-2008 09:14 PM

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Some new pics- first few of the strange exhaust on the car someone made to get it approved for this country I guess. Also one of the ID plate on the rear bumper, anyone recognize it?

Johnhef 02-12-2008 09:18 PM

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some of the inside options and stuff.

Johnhef 02-12-2008 09:22 PM

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Some of the exterior with the new wheels on it and a close up of the sample area to see if the paint is still any good. After wetsanding and two stage buff, apparently it is :)

TheDon 02-12-2008 09:26 PM

ohhh.. its black on black... I need that car

can I buy it??? Pleaasseee I Get my bonus next month and tax money next weeeekkkk!!!! It screams TheDon!

Chadahar 02-12-2008 09:30 PM

D**N! That's going to clean up fine. Any AMG stickers on the door jambs or radiator mount? NICE RIDE. And to you GOOD RIDE COWBOY!

That exhaust "Y" pipe is 180 degrees out of phase of the 380 Euro Logs and "Y" Pipe I just bought in NJ....Wonder if that is a NE US thing. Being mine crossed over from drivers side to passenger side with almost the same set up, but went into a 2 into 1 collector.

Mine has an EGR on the driver's side log, and the driver's side down tube turned under the car to join the passenger side at the collector, the O2 Sensor was mounted just above the bend going into the collector, Passenger side down tube just dropped down, 90'd and went to the collector. My "Y" pipe was cobbled up too, so I just had the seller cut the passenger side off at the collector and the drivers side cut off just above the first bend. My muffler guy can do the rest.

Johnhef 02-12-2008 09:46 PM

Yeah I'm not sure what dto do with the exhaust yet. It's gotta be restricted, the narrowest point is a 1 3/4" pipe. Thats what both sides go down into...

What I haven't been able to get a definitive answer about is whether or not the Euro 500 came with an idle air valve and other stuff, I was surprised to see an EGR valve on it. my euro 380 doesn't have either piece. What did they come with before the DOT got ahold of it?

frankjnjr 02-12-2008 10:59 PM

12 steps
 
hay john, nice ride. the first thing i would do is dump the seats. since there is a rumor circulating that you don't have room in the garage to store them, I'll reluctantly volunteer to take them off your hands. from the looks of the under-side, it appears the mileage may be true. what a beautiful"diamond in the rough"

Johnhef 02-12-2008 11:58 PM

ahh a little search on google rendered what I was looking for:
Quote:

VIN WDB1260441A036264
Model 500 SEC
Chassis 1260441A036264
Engine 117963 12 041525
Transmission 722311 02 447048
Order 0 2 362 50058
Approx. year 1982
Lights BOSCH
Cab 05121
Dealer fahrzeug-werke Lueg, Bochum (362)
Interior leather "nappa" two-color anthracite+anthracite (251)
Paint
040 black (T) (с 01.01.1963)
Options
256 rear axle with limited-slip differential (с 01.11.1965 по 30.11.1991)

406 single seat with orthopaedic front seat backrest, left and right (с 01.07.1970)


410 electric sliding roof (с 01.03.1965 по 29.02.1988)

430 headrests in the rear (с 01.01.1977)

440 tempomat (cruise control) (с 01.09.1975)

452 two-tone horn (с 01.01.1963 по 28.02.1993)

470 anti-lock braking system (abs) (с 01.06.1978 по 31.10.1993)

480 self-levelling suspension (с 01.03.1965)

504 outside rear view mirror, right, electrically adjustable (с 01.11.1978 по 29.02.1986)
outside rear view mirror, right, electrically adjustable (l.h.d.)
taxi version, f.r.g, and outside rear view mirror on the right

510 Becker radio Mexico cassette full stereo, electronic, Kurier LW/MW/SW/USW (с 01.09.1979 по 30.11.1990)

531 automatic antenna (с 01.01.1963)

543 sun visor with vanity mirror, illuminated, left and right (с 01.11.1978)

551 anti-theft warning system (с 01.11.1978 по 31.03.1998)

570 folding armrest front w202/210 stowage box front with armrest (с 01.04.1970)
front folding armrest w202 - housing at front with armrest

581 automatic climate control (с 01.01.1977)

590 heat-insulating glass, all-around, heated rear window pane (laminated glass), Germany
green heat-insulating glass all round, heated rear window, laminated safety glass - Germany (с 01.01.1972)

600 headlamp wiper/washer (с 01.08.1971)

611 courtesy lamps for front and rear doors, with W124 also for central doors/W202 front doors only (с 01.11.1978)

640 aluminium disc wheels with radial-ply tires (с 01.10.1969 по 31.12.1989)

673 high-capacity battery (с 01.01.1964)

682 fire extinguisher (с 01.04.1970)

835 coir mats (с 01.08.1962 по 31.10.1989)

870 electric seat heater for left front seat (с 01.01.1974 по 31.07.1984)

871 electric seat heater for right front seat (с 01.10.1972 по 31.07.1984)


Chadahar 02-13-2008 12:04 AM

My 1984 US ,CA, Spec'd 380SE doesn't have an EGR either. Hope I can ditch the one on the Euro Log too. Smog test sheet where EGR is listed says N/A. I do have the Smog air pump though.

What I'd like to do is pipe the down pipes to a crossover then to a dual in and out high flow cat straight to a Magnaflow (or equivalent) dual in and out muffler..with or without resonators. I would put the bung for the O2 sensor in the junction of the crossover.

John,
Next time use the Russian MB club website to run your VIN.
http://old.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/?lng=eng

Jim B. 02-13-2008 12:14 AM

That is a nice car. It will clean up VERY well.

You might ask on Benzworld W126 about the exhaust, start a thread.
(I am a Moderator there).

There are some REAL W126 exhaust system experts over there.
You will get some good ideas from them.

TheDon 02-13-2008 12:19 AM

maaaan you've got me looking locally for a nice 420SEL.. again...

iwrock 02-13-2008 02:20 AM

Ahhh.... The early orthopedic seats....


Gotta love those optioned cars.

Johnhef 03-12-2008 10:58 PM

I got a little bored with the black AMG wheels that I had on it so I put these on:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...uro/IMG004.jpg

19" Carlsson wheels with 235/40/19 in front and 265/35/19 in rear. Much better :)

Johnhef 03-29-2008 09:02 PM

Dyno day results!
 
I finally got my 1-bump front spring pads on it the other night and now the front end is at a height I like.

Today we had our DIY day with the local MBCA group and I went along to help out and get the 500SEC dynoed.

Specs I was taking as official were these: 500SE/SEL/SEC 4,973cc, 96.5 x 85mm, V8-cyl OHC, type M117, Bosch fuel injection, 240bhp at 4,750rpm; 296.6lb.ft at 3,200 rpm (to spring 1981). 231bhp at 4,750rpm; 298lb.ft at 3,000rpm (from spring 1981 to October 1985). 245bhp at 4,750rpm; 286lb.ft at 3,750rpm (from October 1985). 184bhp at 4,500rpm; 247lb.ft at 2,000 rpm (US models).

168.4 HP @ 4250 RPM
257.8 FT/LB @ 1750 RPM

Even taking in a 20% drivetrain loss, it's little less then what I was hoping for but nonetheless a good base value to start with before I mess with things :D

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/IMG001-2.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/IMG002-3.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/IMG003-1.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/IMG004-1.jpg

Video:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...h_IMG005-2.jpg

TheDon 03-29-2008 09:10 PM

those are some bad ass wheels

Hit Man X 03-29-2008 10:49 PM

NICE :D I love it.

JimmyL 03-30-2008 03:10 AM

Bun of a Sitch you find some nice cars John. Geez!

pmckechnie 03-30-2008 10:04 AM

John, I don't know if you have done anything about the exhaust yet but it really put a smile on my face when I ran a single 2 1/2 in pipe front to rear with an old fashion glass pack about the center and a ugly general replacement muffler on the rear. I have never actually checked HP or 0-60 times but I would say the exhaust added probably 20% to 25% HP and torque. The other thing, before the exhaust change, it just ran out of breath at about 4000 RPM but now it is still pulling strong when it hits the red line at 5500 RPM. My car is actually a US car but it has EURO heads, intake, and FI and runs as good as any 560 I have been in.
Paul in NC

Johnhef 03-31-2008 09:29 PM

The car idles a little better after tonight, found a nice big vacuum leak off the line to the distributor. There was a T into the line with the T going under the manifold and then to nowhere.

Also replaced the seeping coolant reservoir with a new one. Wow those new bottles are really white.

Lunagen Labs 03-31-2008 09:38 PM

Very cool, the car looks great! I've always dug the big coupes.

So what's your eventual plan with this one?

Johnhef 03-31-2008 10:27 PM

This one is the keeper and I will sell the one I took on the trip to NC. I guess whatever this one needs, it will get.

Lunagen Labs 03-31-2008 11:00 PM

Awesome. I look forward to seeing its progress.

ImBroke 04-01-2008 08:05 AM

Looks great john. Someday, I'll get a nice car.. someday.

Johnhef 07-05-2008 11:32 AM

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Not a whole lot has been going on with the car lately, it's been at a friends shop all week getting an exhaust made for it. I should be getting it back on monday. The trans grenaded 3rd gear two days before I was going to take it to autocross so that got pulled out and overhauled as well.

After talking with Jonathan when I was in Atlanta last weekend, he put the bug in my head to find 2nd gen brakes for it so I'm starting on that project now too, as well as I still need to replace the brake booster as it leaks. At some point it's going to need paint so i'm starting to look for a good place to take it to for that as well.

Here's a pic from about an hour before the trans stopped shifting higher then 2nd gear. I had just put on my track tires and wheels for a trial fit and took it around the neighborhood before heading home for the weekend.

Johnhef 07-12-2008 12:01 AM

What a fun night this has been. Just had to have the 500 towed home after bottoming the front end ona dip in the road which knocked the radiator into the fan, destroying both parts. As luck would have it, I have autocross again this sunday and this was the car I was planning on taking!

Going to have to scramble to locate a 126 radiator and fan by tomorrow night!!! :eek: :(


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/img001-3.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/img002-4.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/img003-2.jpg

Also heres some shots of the new exhaust. Not too wild about all the clamps, I may go have it welded sometime soon. I'll try to remember to get some better ones and video next time I have it on the rack.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/img004-2.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/img005-3.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/img006-1.jpg

Dee8go 07-12-2008 06:37 AM

Did Andreas make your exhaust, John?

Mistress 07-12-2008 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g-benz (Post 1760884)
i was looking at an 84 500sec this weekend...i like your 380 though...i'm interested!

do it!

Johnhef 07-12-2008 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dee8go (Post 1907853)
Did Andreas make your exhaust, John?


No but I'm probably going to have him weld it for me.

Johnhef 07-12-2008 11:01 PM

Well it's all back together and running like it should. I also found a bad wire when washing off the coolant mess and replaced that as well.

Mucho Kudos to my 560SEL that gave its fan blades and brand new radiator for the cause. New parts for it were ordered this morning.

LUVMBDiesels 07-12-2008 11:58 PM

That SEC seems to be cursed dude!
 
John,

Will the radiator off Bruno help you? It is brand new...

t walgamuth 07-13-2008 09:01 AM

Lovely car. I am jealous.

I can see you are having a lot of fun with it too. Congratulations.

I suggest turning the muffler clamps to the side so that the ends can't catch things you might need to drive across. If you weld it this won't apply but I never like welding them because the parts never wear out at the same time and its a devil to take off the rear section after its welded!

Tom W

pwogaman 07-13-2008 08:24 PM

Bring the exhaust by next time you visit your Dad and I'll weld it up for you.

Johnhef 07-13-2008 09:41 PM

Check out the pics from today, the car did great and I finally nailed some cones!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/DSC_0267.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/DSC_0268.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/DSC_0269.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/DSC_0364.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/DSC_0365.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/DSC_0366.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/DSC_0387.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/DSC_0388.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/DSC_0389.jpg

Johnhef 07-13-2008 09:43 PM

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/DSC_0415.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/DSC_0416.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...o/DSC_0418.jpg

(credit goes to Brett Hack for the pics)


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