DIY 1st gear start, 80-85 S-Class - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

pmckechnie · #1 10-29-2008, 06:22 PM

I was messing around with my 84 500SEL and found that it has a thing called "Moving off 1st gear" This is the system that makes it start off in 1st gear when the shifter is moved to 3 or 2. It didn't work on my car and I traced the problem to the NSS. I got to thinking, what if I just put a switch where I could get to it. Well, I used an old rear interior light switch and hooked the wire that normally goes to the NSS to one terminal and Ignition power to the other. Put the switch in the position used by the radio fader and I now have 1st GEAR START that can be disabled by turning off the added switch. Cost, nothing.
After checking I found that all 80-85 126 and 107 cars have this system. This is information I got from Alldata so it may not be correct, but I know that 84 and 85 500SELs have it. I'm sure it could be used on other models. It is a very simple system. There is a special relay or control unit that only has 4 wires. It only needs a speed signal from the speedometer, a ground, 12 volts that is switched on and off by the switch I added, and a wire down to the kickdown switch under the gas peddle.
It works great, can be disabled and very low cost if you can get the parts at the local PAP.

Paul

whunter · #2 10-30-2008, 02:21 AM

for this diy.

Thank you.

pmckechnie · #3 10-30-2008, 07:38 AM

I have seen a lot of other things a lot more complicated on this site which were called DIY. On an 84 or 85 (the ones I know for a fact will work) there is only 2 wires and a switch that need to be added. One from the control unit very accessable, atached to the curise ontrol bracket just above the brake peddle and the other can be hooked to any ignition power such as the lighter socket in the ash tray. The control unit for this system has a 6 pin connector with only 4 wires used. The one used is a white wire and can be spliced into. The other wire is attached to the lighter in the ashtray which is black/green wire. The switch can be any type of on/off switch that the other ends of the two wires are connected to.
To me this is a DIY project. I realize that I do auto electric work as a living and building a new wireing harness is a DIY for me so each person needs to determine if it is a DIY for them. As far a adding the whole system to another car is a little more complicated but if you go to a PAP and get the control unit and it's harness is doable. I'll be glad to help anyone wanting to try this if I can.

Paul

pmckechnie · #4 11-02-2008, 08:37 AM

I will get some pictures this week and try to post them.

S-Class Guru · #5 11-02-2008, 09:02 PM

Paul, interesting. My '91 SE has this feature, and I searched around over the last 15 years or so for the options to make it a 1st gear start.
I found some hydraulic solutions, and an electrical solution involving manipulation of the fuel system duty cycle (or something like that).
But I never jumped in, as I read a few negative posts about damaging the tranny.
I'll do a little schematic searching on this approach; I recently did some minor valve body and modulator work, and now when I occasionally select the 1st gear start, the 1-2 shift is no longer harsh, but nice and quick and firm, just like the others. I'd love to have a switch on the dash - use 1st in the summer when the AC is on and bogs doiwn the little 3L engine too much.
I eagerly await more info.

DG

pmckechnie · #6 11-03-2008, 07:37 AM

I'll be working on a DIY with photos today and will get them up as soon as I can. I haven't looked into anything other than 84 and 85 500SELs but will check the diagrams for the 91 SE 3L today.
Paul