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Old 05-13-2010, 08:53 PM
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HELP please 97 e320 not firing up!!

Hello
After swapping three engines into my car, it will not fire up. Everything needed for it to fire is there, but it won't!!!! uuuurrrrrggggggg
1st transplant had a bad cylinder, second had a bad head and now the third which was running before it (car) was rear ended it then became a donor for my car.
what can it be? Computer is fine, spark is there ....??????
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Old 05-13-2010, 09:06 PM
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Three (3) engines eh?

All gone bad! Now that is a trail of bad luck that I can only trace back to two possible reasons...one is chance/odds this happened ...the other is....well, you know.....
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Old 05-13-2010, 09:25 PM
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I could guess.

Could swapping the engines have an effect on the Crank position sensor ?
Does it turn over ?
Does it crank and not fire ?

More info please.
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Old 05-13-2010, 09:25 PM
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Fourth engine should be a charm!
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:05 PM
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Thanks for the prompt response!!
Engine cranks but does not fire!!
My neighbors wife said crank position as well. if it is the sensor how can that be rectified?
This is a great start. I really dont want to pull this engine.
thanks again guys
Pedro
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:29 PM
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Flex plate?
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Old 05-14-2010, 12:59 AM
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You have spark? Or no spark?

Are you sure it is getting gas?

You could try some starting spray and see if that makes it run for second. If you get a backfire then timing.
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Old 05-14-2010, 03:34 AM
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CPS is in the back of the engine on top. Should have seen it while motor was pulled. I might try the coil packs also.
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Old 05-14-2010, 04:59 AM
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Yes if you look down between the cam cover and the firewall you should see the CPS.

Although, if you are getting spark, would this not suggest the CPS is good ? Does the CPS dictate when the plugs fire ?
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Old 05-15-2010, 12:50 AM
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more info on the transplant.
The only difference from the other transplants is that the flex plate that is on the engine is NOT the original but off a 96 e320. Would this make a difference??
The other engines were put in they way they came from the donor yard; this one however was replaced with teh previous engine's flex plate.
fuel is reaching the cylinders and so is spark but not igniting!!!!!!!!!!
where are the gremlins!!UUUUURRRRGGGGGG
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Old 05-15-2010, 05:23 AM
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Cant be sure. But I am pretty sure that 96 to 97 was a transition year ? I remember a parts supplier saying that their were two different CPS types for that year. IE, a different flex plate ??? Does my logic work here ?
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Old 05-15-2010, 01:40 PM
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i presently have the car at an independent mercedes shop they cant figure it out should i just take it to a real mercedes stealership???
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Old 05-17-2010, 11:30 PM
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Spark plugs??? Can a bad gap be causing this??? uuuurrrrrrggggg
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Old 05-18-2010, 07:09 PM
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Ah, no, it's probably related to TIMING. Either the spark or fuel injection. Good start would be to double-check the basic cam timing.
Could also check the coil primary wiring to make sure that's correct, and IIRC there are 3 coils, each controlling the spark on 2 cylinders each, so make sure that's all connected correctly.
I assume the engine wiring harness is OK, doesn't have the broken down insulation problem.
Plug gap is .032" or .8mm, very doubtful it would cause a no-start.
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