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locry 10-28-2012 11:44 PM

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...0282012005.jpg
temporarily mated the engine and tranny for test fitting
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...0282012022.jpg
only minimal front crossmember alterations are needed...
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...0282012023.jpg
not cramped at all... :) Have to fabricate a longer shroud to cover the fan...

The oil pickup tube I got from a 602 equipped Benz didn't fit the oil pump that came with my engine... so we're gonna modify/shorten the tube in my engine instead.

All that's needed so far for a clean install are the fabricated engine arms and a little bit of front crossmember modification at its trailing edge... just to clear one corner of the sump. The transmission mount was not modified in any way so the prop shaft didn't have to be touched...

The only major hiccup now is we can't remove the torque converter from the M104... I can't rotate the engine to access the TC bolts. This is the first time I have tried rotating it since the flood 2-3 years ago... it's seized up pretty bad. I removed the spark plugs and poured used oil in the cylinders hoping to loosen something up... will try again later with a breaker bar... any suggestions?

locry 10-29-2012 11:51 AM

I test fitted the radiator and shroud, it seems the fan position on the 602/603 are off-center more toward the passenger side as compared to the gasser ones. So DID the diesel w140s have a different fan shroud? I guess this also applies to the w124s.
Anybody notice this? Can anybody confirm? Thanks

sixto 10-29-2012 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by locry (Post 3038497)
I test fitted the radiator and shroud, it seems the fan position on the 602/603 are off-center more toward the passenger side as compared to the gasser ones. So DID the diesel w140s have a different fan shroud? I guess this also applies to the w124s.
Anybody notice this? Can anybody confirm? Thanks

Yes and deal with it :)

The 603 fan tips, at least in the 124 and 126, extend to starboard beyond the radiator core as if the starboard end tank benefited from airflow. Something like 15% of the radiator core on the port side isn't covered by the shroud in a 124. I'm sure your latero can whip up a shroud easily but I'd be tempted to hang a Spal fan or two directly on the radiator with a manual override switch for duty in the tropics rather than mess with a fluid coupling clutch a foot behind the radiator. You might not get enough heat at the clutch's bimetal strip to have it work per design. The engine will probably benefit from the open space.

Sixto
87 300D

sixto 10-29-2012 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by locry (Post 3038230)

This might qualify as the first mid-engine W140 :)

Sixto
87 300D

locry 10-29-2012 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixto (Post 3038901)
This might qualify as the first mid-engine W140 :)

Sixto
87 300D

:D

I did consider just putting electric fans in there... but I just love anything and everything that runs without electricity. :P You know, just in case something burns out or something. Haha.

I didn't think about the clutch's proximity to the radiator... good point. Deym.

btw, I still can't get the M104 to turn!!! I need that TC!!! :mad:

sixto 10-29-2012 09:43 PM

I don't think you can drop the crank with TC since the rear seal carrier has bolts into the block which you can only remove with the flex plate out of the way. This is my first thought - remove the cams and oil pan then remove the main caps. That might loosen the crank enough to turn. If not, remove the rod caps, send penetrating oil down the cylinder walls then hammer on a pipe around the rod bolts to send the pistons to TDC (that's why you removed the cams). That should be enough to turn the crank.

Hey, it just occurred to me that you might be able to use the M104 oil pick-up tube in your 602!

Sixto
87 300D

locry 10-30-2012 12:41 AM

Good idea on the pickup tube!!!!!!! :D Will try that!

Yeah, i'll probably have the guys remove the head completely so I can clean it up and try to salvage useable parts for those who need them. Might as well.

Right now the arms are being fabricated... it looks so ghetto. :D But really really looks robust. :cool:

locry 10-30-2012 12:51 AM

Initial steel plates cut to size :eek:
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...0302012001.jpg
Doesn't get any more ghetto than this. :D Love it!!!

sixto 10-30-2012 04:01 AM

Leave room to install and remove the starter.

Sixto
87 300D

locry 10-30-2012 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sixto (Post 3039068)
Leave room to install and remove the starter.

Sixto
87 300D

:eek: OMG!

locry 10-30-2012 06:00 AM

Wow man, you made me run down there...
I just HAD to check it when you brought it up... haha
More than enough room. Whew!
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...0302012004.jpg

locry 10-31-2012 05:43 AM

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...0312012001.jpg
As long as it gets the car moving... :P

oldsinner111 10-31-2012 06:12 AM

Lo Cry,this is Nate from facebook.Love what you are doing to your w140. I went with electric fans on my cars.

locry 10-31-2012 06:52 AM

You're Nate? COOL!!! Didn't realize that. :)

I'm getting there. After the engine and drivetrain I'm gonna tackle the electrics. Making it simpler in terms of components. All the A/C stuff has been cleaned and flushed... gotta check the compressor that came with the engine though...
All in all it's all good!

gsxr 10-31-2012 10:10 AM

You'll have room for a six-inch-thick intercooler up front, lol... gonna need the extra power from a 2.5L to motovate a W140.

:zorro:


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