PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum (http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/)
-   Tech Help (http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/)
-   -   190e maunal trans swap HELP (http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/347520-190e-maunal-trans-swap-help.html)

E30M42 12-10-2013 09:46 PM

190e maunal trans swap HELP
 
I purchased a transmission recently to put in my 85 190 and I am trying to make sure I have my ducks in a row before I purchase more parts

The transmission is a 717411 out of an 87 190d, I like the ratios in this tranny, that is why I chose it

It appears to me that the 190d uses a single mass flywheel, and I have read that the input shaft may be a different length

I intend on purchasing the other parts needed tonight and want to know if a dual mass 190e flywheel will work with this transmission

tjts1 12-11-2013 12:20 AM

No a dual mass flywheel will not work with that transmission. Dual mass trans uses a different length input shaft than single mass.

Stretch 12-11-2013 01:21 AM

The W201.122 190D chassis had a whole bunch of different gearboxes fitted =>

Mercedes Benz EPC 201.122 Chassis Information | Everything Benz

The 717.411 is amongst them as is the 717.412 which was fitted to petrol engines (M102s) and diesels (W201 and W124 - OM601)

So I don't think the shaft won't be a problem.

I wasn't aware that dual mass flywheels were fitted to W201 petrol engines. My M102.910 doesn't have one.

E30M42 12-11-2013 07:36 AM

I don't think it is a dual mass, I happened to read some incorrect information, false alarm, Now I need to figure out the wiring, looking at the diagrams it looks like I need to cut and splice some wires

tjts1 12-11-2013 08:53 AM

Depending on which year the gearbox came out of and which year its going into, you might need the correct ignition timing windows on the flywheel.
190E with 3.0 5-speed Swap - Mercedes-Benz Forum

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stretch (Post 3252719)
I wasn't aware that dual mass flywheels were fitted to W201 petrol engines. My M102.910 doesn't have one.

My 92 190e 2.6 had a dual mass flywheel.
http://i.imgur.com/fMFlE.jpg

E30M42 12-11-2013 11:10 AM

trans is out of an 87 190d 2.5, car is an 85 190e 2.3

tjts1 12-11-2013 11:17 AM

You'll be fine then. Early cars don't have timing windows. Just use the same same flywheel that came with the transmission.

Stretch 12-11-2013 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjts1 (Post 3252806)
...

My 92 190e 2.6 had a dual mass flywheel.
http://i.imgur.com/fMFlE.jpg

What they wanna go and do that for then? I would have intrinsically thought 6 cylinder = silky smooth (well OK you know what I mean I guess? Certainly not a rough and ready 4 pot but not a V12)

tjts1 12-11-2013 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stretch (Post 3252972)
What they wanna go and do that for then? I would have intrinsically thought 6 cylinder = silky smooth (well OK you know what I mean I guess? Certainly not a rough and ready 4 pot but not a V12)

No idea. As far as I know all the M102s and M103s that came to the US had a dual mass flywheel after a certain date and I'm pretty sure the same is true about M104s since my flywheel had a 104 PN. That dual mass now lives behind my OM603.

E30M42 12-11-2013 09:12 PM

does anyone happen to know the thread specs for the shift knobs, the factory ones are expensive and not too appealing, I would love to put a momo shift knob on it


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:36 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website