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Old 07-01-2015, 09:54 PM
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Fan Clutch Removal For 95 E320

I'm sure this question has been posted a million times, but I'm going to ask anyway to keep from having to search for it, if ya'll don't mind!

I think the fan clutch is going out on my 95 E320 Wagon, as I'm seeing small aluminum metal flakes / chips being blown up on the engine and can't see anywhere else they may be coming from.

I suspect the fan clutch as it tends to run hot at idle and in slow stop and go traffic, and then cools down again once I start moving and air begins moving through the radiator.

I've unbolted the four bolts and pulled the fan blade assembly off and understand a special tool is needed to pull the clutch.

Is there a way around a special tool or is one available that could be rented that makes the job more simple?

Also I'm assuming the radiator and electric fans need to be removed to do this...is that correct?
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Old 07-02-2015, 06:16 AM
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Tech info top of the page all type of repairs in there .
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Old 07-02-2015, 06:37 PM
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This should be the type with an allen bolt in the center ( 8 MM I think, if not that 10 mm )

If you have an impact wrench ( air or electric ) you can give it a hit with that and it will come right out. If no power tools, use a strap wrench around the pulley.

The shavings are likely coming from another source. The typical fan clutch failure is the bearing failing and fan staying engaged at all times.
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Old 07-02-2015, 07:25 PM
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Thanks for the good info...we'll examine it closer to see if something else is causing the flying aluminum chips!
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Thanks for the good info...we'll examine it closer to see if something else is causing the flying aluminum chips!
I guess it is like the 1994 E320 and my guess would be the bearing at the engine block behind the fan it is bought with the aluminium housing not expensive if I remember.
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Old 07-07-2015, 06:53 AM
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MB300se65, sounds like the fan clutch bearing bracket is failing. Recommend buying a rebuilt one from your local MB dealer because you want a quality part ... not a job you want to repeat anytime soon. Need to disassemble most of the accessories on the front of the engine to R/R the fan clutch bearing bracket. It's a time-consuming job, especially if the front of your engine has a build-up of grease and grime, although not particularly difficult. Advise taking pictures and tagging bolts as you disassemble so you remember how to reassemble everything. If you accidentally use a short bolt where a longer one belongs, you can easily strip the female threads.

Use a small allen wrench (or a bent piece of 1/8"wire) in the bearing bracket slot to hold the fan clutch in place while loosening the center allen bolt.
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Old 07-07-2015, 06:15 PM
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This is great info Ferdman and spit64!!! So from what you guys are thinking it is coming from the fan clutch area after all!

Whats confusing is the clutch spins freely with the typical resistance that I think feels normal from what I can remember from one that's working properly, and there's no grinding sound or indication that it's bad other than the fact that it tends to run hot at idle and in slow stop and go traffic.

You two mention the "fan clutch bearing bracket" and the "bearing at the engine block behind the fan", are these two items one in the same?

I don't have an exploded view drawing of the engine and am wanting to clarify this!

Is it the pulley that drives the fan with the serpentine belt mounted to a bracket on the front top of the engine, and what you two are suggesting is that it's the bearing on this bracket / pulley that's going out?

I've attached two images, with one having an arrow pointing to this pulley. The second one shows an arrow pointing to the chips I'm seeing, which are blowing up on the left side of the engine behind that pulley.




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Old 07-07-2015, 07:19 PM
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Old 07-07-2015, 07:55 PM
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I wish the mods would put your term for dealership in the bad word list, it drags the entire automotive industry down including Peach Parts as some will include PP in that sphere.

When getting my 97 SL320 up to spec, I bought a lot of parts at the dealer that were competitive with aftermarket. An example would be coolant hoses, I changed every last hose on the car not wanting an unannounced breakdown. All but one was in stock at the USA warehouse , one had to come from Germany and it arrived the next day with no freight charge!

Sure there are parts that may be a better value in the open market ( like spark plugs, belts, some gaskets ) , but sometimes it isn't worth the time battling over a few $.
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Old 07-07-2015, 08:07 PM
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I wish the mods would put your term for dealership in the bad word list, it drags the entire automotive industry down including Peach Parts as some will include PP in that sphere.

When getting my 97 SL320 up to spec, I bought a lot of parts at the dealer that were competitive with aftermarket. An example would be coolant hoses, I changed every last hose on the car not wanting an unannounced breakdown. All but one was in stock at the USA warehouse , one had to come from Germany and it arrived the next day with no freight charge!

Sure there are parts that may be a better value in the open market ( like spark plugs, belts, some gaskets ) , but sometimes it isn't worth the time battling over a few $.
I'm with you on that 97 SL320!!! Having worked for Mercedes back in the mid 1970's I saw nothing at the corporate level or in the dealerships that would shed a bad light on any part of the organization!

I haven't heard back from Ferdman or spit64 regarding my last post and am curious if you might have any thoughts on the questions I've asked in it?
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Old 07-08-2015, 05:02 PM
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I'm with you on that 97 SL320!!! Having worked for Mercedes back in the mid 1970's I saw nothing at the corporate level or in the dealerships that would shed a bad light on any part of the organization!

Thanks.

Too many people forget that these cars cost 2X of a generic USA domestic when new. Compare a 97 C 280 or E 320 against a similar size domestic and you will see.

Just because they bought a MB at a deep discount ( because the market for a generic "older MB used car" is pretty small ) they apparently think that parts should be discounted as well.

I suspect they would also complain about buying parts for a low rent Chevy Cobalt as well so it isn't just a MB thing.

My 97 SL320 Sport was purchased 3 years ago for 6k and I put another 2 to 2.5K into it getting it up to my " no unannounced breakdowns" level. The car is very nice but not show room so I am able to drive it rather than it be garage furniture.

The SL was something like $ 80 K new so I don't whine about the few expensive parts, in fact most of the common wear stuff is priced at C or E class level. And even at that is isn't out of line with a USA domestic.

All told I'm into my SL for what the original owner would have paid in _SALES TAX_ when new ( adjusted for inflation ) so every time I drive it I think what a bargain!
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Old 07-08-2015, 11:09 PM
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I think if there’s anything that stood out with Mercedes when I worked for them was the fact that what you saw on the window sticker was what you paid. In fact, in many cases on cars that were very limited production, like the 450SL and 6.9, it wasn’t uncommon for a dealer to sell them above MSRP, and it’s why Mercedes has the highest resale value of any other production car on the market!

This was back in the mid 70’s and I don’t know what Mercedes policy is today on discounting off suggested retail, as the several dozen MBs I’ve owned since have all been used classics like 50’s and 60’s coupes and convertibles, which were worth more when I sold them restored than what they were priced originally as new cars.

I’ve heard rumor that the reason Mercedes sold Chrysler is because the market for US made cars was so opposite of their philosophy on discounting that they didn’t foresee Chrysler ever being capable of fitting their business model. If there’s anything good from that merger it’s how they raised the bar on Chrysler’s quality, advancements in engineering, technology, and their design!

I’ve been doing a little snooping on availability and price for a Fan Clutch Bearing Bracket on the 95 E320 Wagon, which is the model I have, and I’ve only identified one style at this point that I’ve posted a picture of, which is Part #1042001328. Once I determine this is what’s causing the problem I’ll confirm whether it’s the early or later style before ordering!


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MB300se65, call the Parts Department at your local MB dealer. With your VIN you can find out the Part No. for the fan clutch bearing bracket and the cost of a rebuilt one. That will eliminate any guess work about which style you have.
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You will have a much better time of it if you pull the radiator, it opens up a bit of room.

That is a lot of aluminum, don't drive the car as something is on the verge of coming completely apart.

Pull the fan belt and spin / wobble the fan.
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Old 07-07-2015, 08:13 PM
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You will have a much better time of it if you pull the radiator, it opens up a bit of room.

That is a lot of aluminum, don't drive the car as something is on the verge of coming completely apart.

Pull the fan belt and spin / wobble the fan.
It's been parked since I 1st saw the chips up on the engine and isn't going anywhere until I get it fixed.

I love to tinker and like doing my own repairs, so when I'm relatively certain I understand what may be causing it I'll dig in and fix it myself!
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