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W210 VS W211
So considering the option of a new E320 I see that from 04 on the W211 is from $4500 to $10K and up but a really nice W210 from 99, 2000 and 2003 can be had well under $3,500 to even $2,500.
They're harder to find in good condition due to the age, but don't have the ABS system issues and perhaps just about as nice a car. Have a larger cargo area..virtually equal MPG. And here is what I really like about the W210, they retain the brilliant mono-wiper. So comments? any real reason to prefer the later model W211 over the 210? And for the money I suspect a much nicer car could be found in the earlier Benz than in the later one..Aficionado maintained versus a used up family car... I know there are very qualified experts lurking here ready to comment! You know who you are, and thanks in advance. Im listening.
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Test drive both before you decide. The W211 is a much more modern car in terms of amenities and handling but the interior is smaller and some repairs will be more expensive. Diagnostics on the W211 are much easier and cheaper to DIY than the W210 so thats a big plus for me. I think its down to personal preference and what you can find in your local market. I have a W210 diesel and I was shopping for a W211 wagon before I ended up buying a W203 wagon. I wouldn't even consider buying a W203 until I drove one.
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Hmmmmmmm..................perhaps you mean this the other way around???
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No. For the W210 you need a star diagnositc tool or one of several knock offs which involves an ancient lap top, many cables and a steep learning curve. If you're into that kind of thing, great! The can bus architecture on the W210 went through several versions depending on the year and engine. The W211 is standardized along with every other MB from around 2000+. A $120 tool that plugs into the OBD2 port and fits in the glovebox will do everything except coding. Thats a big plus in my book.
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I don't know tjts1. I've never really had any issues diagnosing the 210. I've got a 98 210 diesel and a gasser 05 E class wagon. For daily driving I'll take the 210 all day long but the 05 sure is nice on a long trip.
The 210 is easier on tires in my opinion. The most reliable one in the yard is the 95 E300 .
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What tool would you use to diagnose a bad ABS sensor on the 210?
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I never owned a 211, but I did own a 210 wagon from new. My motto is "friends don't let friends buy 210's". I understand that there are lots of 210 fans, but I have no explanation for it. Maybe they live in the sunbelt where there's no rust, or maybe their cars are garaged in bad weather. Maybe their cars went down a different line. Maybe white cars were more problem prone. I don't know. There are cars I've liked less, but I've never liked a Mercedes less.
On the issue of mono-wipers. The reason the 210 was the last to have them is that the 210 wiper was so heavy that the entire car shakes left and right with the wiper on high speed. It's really not very lux to be sitting in a car that's rocking like an overloaded washing machine. |
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I replaced it with a '98 that spent its whole life in northern Maryland according to carfax, and there's not a spot of rust anywhere on the car, over or under. Its pristine, at 19 years old and 155k miles. White, btw.
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Thanks for the note on Florida! just looking at a 2006 with only 97K miles for 6900 and it never occurred to me Florida was rust zone. Its a Florida trade in selling at a dealership. lots of great info here! On the West coast that car would be priced at about 8,900!
If I pursue that car I will have it thoroughly checked for any signs of corrosion! |
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I would tend to vote for the W211 because of the modernity factor. But, most important is to avoid the dreaded balance-shaft gear cars, which were the M272/273 engines up through sometime in '07 (google for the exact cutoff).
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The Autel MaxiDas system provides all the diagnostics I need on the 210 car.
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That's great if you spend $1000 on a diagnostic tool for a $2000 car.
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If Im wrong please correct. I think the commenter is right to be wary but talking about a different engine. |
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Not sure when the M272 replaced the M112 in the W211, but I think in '05? Also, the E320 became the moniker for the diesel version, the CDI.
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Also we have an '08 Bluetec and it's badged as an E320. The OM642 bluetec engine is nowhere near as DIY friendly as the om648 cdi, or the om606 turbodiesel. Bluetec V6 is a PITA to work on, I don't have any interest in ever owning another om642. Maybe the S-class is better, but om642 is simply too much crap stuffed into the E-class engine bay. Even "simple" jobs take hours to complete, and if you have large hands, fugetaboutit.
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