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Old 10-31-2018, 10:19 PM
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2000 C230 power seats inop

Checked all the under hood fuses. pulled them out inspected for burns and or corrosion and replaced....nothing....neither seat none of the seat controls work
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Old 11-01-2018, 07:33 AM
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The fuses for the seats are in the fuse box in the trunk.
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Old 11-01-2018, 12:33 PM
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that's wonderful to hear. ill check them today and get back to you
Thank you
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Old 11-01-2018, 01:15 PM
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I inspected and replaced the trunk fuses to no avail......Whomp Whomp
where do I go from here?
Found this in the trunk by the spare tire
Any ideas what this is
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Old 11-02-2018, 02:07 AM
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Master Tech question?????? wink wink RPM55

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The fuses for the seats are in the fuse box in the trunk.
If I pull the wire harness off the bottom of the seat,,,,,,,,
do you know which color wires control the bottom rear lift/lower. I need my butt to go down.. LOL....
typically the back of a seat bottom sits lower than the front and that's not the case right now
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Old 11-02-2018, 08:04 AM
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I suspect your problem may be the seat adjustment control relay. It is located under the panel that is forward of the spare tire cover. It should be Part #: 002-542-22-19. Check your messages for more info. I sent you an email also.
It seems that I can no longer attach files to messages or emails created on the forum. It's possible that I was never able to, my memory is not what is used to be!

Any way, back to your question, the wire colors in the harness are white/blue and black/blue, positions 11 and 12 in the connector. The wire colors on the wires attached to the three motors under the seat are all black and white.

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Old 11-02-2018, 10:26 AM
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thank you so much Robert

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I suspect your problem may be the seat adjustment control relay. It is located under the panel that is forward of the spare tire cover. It should be Part #: 002-542-22-19. Check your messages for more info. I sent you an email also.
It seems that I can no longer attach files to messages or emails created on the forum. It's possible that I was never able to, my memory is not what is used to be!

Any way, back to your question, the wire colors in the harness are white/blue and black/blue, positions 11 and 12 in the connector. The wire colors on the wires attached to the three motors under the seat are all black and white.

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I appreciate so much all the help guidance and tips I get on this forum. you guys are a wonderful collective of humans and knowledge and I thank you all so much
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Old 11-02-2018, 09:17 PM
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thanks RPM55

I got my seat manually adjusted to where it is comfortable for me.
the relay checked out good, I dropped it off at my buddies auto electric shop and he said it is a good relay......
What left to check now?
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Old 11-03-2018, 05:32 PM
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I suspect your problem may be the seat adjustment control relay. It is located under the panel that is forward of the spare tire cover. It should be Part #: 002-542-22-19. Check your messages for more info. I sent you an email also.
It seems that I can no longer attach files to messages or emails created on the forum. It's possible that I was never able to, my memory is not what is used to be!

Any way, back to your question, the wire colors in the harness are white/blue and black/blue, positions 11 and 12 in the connector. The wire colors on the wires attached to the three motors under the seat are all black and white.

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Where would you look next good sir?
any thoughts?
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Old 11-04-2018, 08:53 PM
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This is the definitive W202 seat problem thread:

'98 C280 Power seat problems

However, it is always the relay in my experience. I would question how the relay was tested. As discussed in the above thread, the circuit board in the relay develops circular cracks in the solder around some of the pins.
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Old 11-01-2018, 01:20 PM
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From the part number it’s a lateral acceleration sensor. Looks like it’s in the panel ahead of the spare -



https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w203/506102-esp-error-diagnosed-rotary-speed-lateral-acceleration-sensor.html

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A common failure on the 203 body is seat control mods. You may want to get a scan.
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Old 11-01-2018, 02:54 PM
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A common failure on the 203 body is seat control mods. You may want to get a scan.
Mine is a 202 but I have a good friend that is a snap on dealer
so ill se if I can get him to plug his $10K scanner into for me.
Thanks for the advise
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ATE = A brand of braking system parts 163 at start of the Mercedes part number = first used on ML series

The part number 163 542 06 16 is coming up as lateral acceleration sensor for ESP ( Electronic Stability Program ) 99 - 05 ML but be aware that parts are sometimes shared between models.

Do you have a switch above the radio area that says " ESP OFF " if so, you have stability control, If you have a switch that says ASR OFF " You have Acceleration Slip Regulation. If no switch and a 5 pipe ABS unit under the hood, you have ABS only.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:42 AM
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ATE = A brand of braking system parts 163 at start of the Mercedes part number = first used on ML series

The part number 163 542 06 16 is coming up as lateral acceleration sensor for ESP ( Electronic Stability Program ) 99 - 05 ML but be aware that parts are sometimes shared between models.

Do you have a switch above the radio area that says " ESP OFF " if so, you have stability control, If you have a switch that says ASR OFF " You have Acceleration Slip Regulation. If no switch and a 5 pipe ABS unit under the hood, you have ABS only.
I have the ESP system and all is working well. if it had a problem in the past it has been fixed. the power seats are the car's only issue
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