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92 190E Poor idle
1992 MB 190E 2.3 L
I have a 1992 190E that shakes at an idle. When I'm driving down the road the car is fine. But stopped and idling I can feel the car shake. Off idle it's OK. The head gasket was replaced before I got the car. Below is a list of the things I've checked. Does anyone know what the valve timing is supposed to be? The exhaust valve closing before TDC seems wrong to me? Engine mounts: OK Compression: All 160 psi Cylinder balance: even Ignition spark: OK wires, cap, rotor & timing adjust timing: 0 deg replace plugs: Bosche platinum Fuel System fuel sample: OK cold start valve: OK (line disconnected) system pressure: 80 psi lower chamber pressure: 74 psi (raises to 80 on decel) regulator current: 20 ma @ start up; + or - 1 @ warm idle temp sensor: 2.200 ohm @ 65 F; 300 ohm @ 170 F throttle switches: OK air meter: clean & free air meter position sensor: OK vacuum leaks: none decel switch: OK inspect injector spray: streams replace 4 injectors and seals remove throttle body and clean EGR system: valve OK; vacuum switch broken replace EGR thermal vacuum switch O2 sensor: low steady reading replace O2 sensor: varies .2v to .8v Charcoal canister purge valve: OK Cam timing: intake opens @ 18 deg BTC exhaust closed @ 4 deg BTC Thanks Jim |
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Copper plugs
The car had the copper plugs in it originally
when it was idling poorly. I switched to platinum plugs after checking the compression and there was no change. I could put copper back in but I doubt it will change anything. It's got me stumped! Thank you Jim |
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Be sure to let us know if you solve it, some of us 190ers would appreciate it.
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190E's: 2.5-16v 1990 90,000m Astral Silver 2.0E 8v 1986 107,000m Black 2nd owner http://www.maylane.demon.co.uk/190esmall.jpghttp://www.maylane.demon.co.uk/190esmall2.jpg |
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Check your idle valve. I had intermittent crappy idle which turned into no idle (unless I kept my foot on the accel). I replaced my Idle Valve and am now back to normal.
Brian16V |
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If at idle your car shakes, most likely your motor mounts need to be replaced. I had the same problem and once the mounts were replaced, no more shaking at idle
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I replaced all motor mounts and idle control valve. Still feel shake.
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Can you be more specific about the symptoms?
Does the engine idle at the proper idle speed, and is the speed steady or does it vary? Does "shake" mean just a vabration or does is literally SHAKE the car? Is the vibration frequency constant or variable? The ignition timing @ idle speed is listed on the emission/tuneup decal on the radiator upper support. Where did you get those valve timing specs? Mercedes valve timing specs are typically quoted at 1 mm lift, so exhaust valve closing BTC and inlet valve opening ATC is typical since the OE cams have little overlap. Duke |
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