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EricH 01-15-2000 02:38 PM

Hi All,

This may be a stupid question, but I'm interested in keeping my 500E in top shape now that's its hit 100k miles. I've got a mysterious clunk in the driver's side front that is apparent at low speeds over bumps. I heard that shocks last about 100k, but what about all the bushings, tie-rods,wheel bearings, springs, etc. Do the springs degrade over time? Sway bar? I also understand that I should budget for the motor mounts going out around 100k in this car.

I believe that the clunk I hear is either a shock on its way out or the wheel bearing. Any other things to look at?

Thanks,
Eric


Michael 01-15-2000 05:36 PM

I'd bet lower ball joints might be the culprit. Another wear item is the tie rod assy. and, if it hasn't been changed yet, you're overdue to replace your steering damper.

Your torsion bar mounts do wear, so you might want to check them or simply replace (as I would, but I'm not afraid to admit I'm obsessive about maintenance). Your struts aren't absolutely cooked at 100k mi, they just might be losiung their edge. I'd wait, but that's your call (also, they're at least $200 per in the front, and $450ish each in the rear + you'd want to then do the nitrogen cells).

I can't speak to wear in the springs, but I doubt they fatigue much. And the front bearings almost never go bad; very robust parts.

I'd also suggest you have an experienced tech look at all of your rear links, as they are subject to wear too. Good luck!

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Best regards, Michael
'92 500E
'88 300TE

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Benzmac 01-15-2000 09:12 PM

I haven't had to replace the ball joints in the 124's much, but the idler arm bushings will make a heck of a noise when they are worn. Take my advise and have the front end checked by someone who knows the cars well.

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makakio 08-23-2000 02:56 PM

Hi all - wanted to ask the ask the same question for my 93 190 2.6 with 70k miles.

How long does the suspension last? Could it be time for new suspension / bushings? They seem to perform okay (no major thumping or anything), but the tail end is a little sloppier than I remember it being miles ago and I feel things are getting a little worn-in over railroad crossings, over speed bumps, etc. Just feels like a little more 'play' in the system. Also, at high-er (think 85+ mph), the car feels like it travels longer on the suspension and gets a little floatier than it used to.

If it's time, are there better aftermarket products that would add a bit more sport and precision to the works WITHOUT going through a full Sportline conversion (ie lowering springs). Does simply adding bigger sway bars front and rear help? Does anyone have experience with stiffer bushings?

And yet one more question: what components does a 201 have? Am I looking at struts AND shocks at all four corners? Steering dampener, etc?

Really appreciate you techie guys who have the answers - it helps me have more fun.

Matt

LarryBible 08-23-2000 04:36 PM

Several times I've thought it was time for major front end repair when it turned out to be worn shock shafts causing the rattling.

Good luck,

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Larry Bible
'84 Euro 240D, 523K miles
'88 300E 5 Speed
'81 300D Daughter's Car
Over 800,000 miles in
Mercedes automobiles


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