Ebay 220 Coupe, what's it worth?

[1969280s]

I followed this car during its last auction and missed it. Being a Euro, how much does that effect the value? I like it.

Best,

David

[1969280s]

Sorry, below is the link.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6329&viewitem=&item=290195456844&_trksid=p3907.m29

[t walgamuth]

A euro? not much difference in that era I would think. speedo in kilos, maybe.

The steering wheel with the blue in the center looks like my 190c fintail did, after I changed the center material. From the factory the center was ivory to match the wheel.

What's it worth? Dunno....maybe 30K?

Tom W

[POS]

1) Many people think that the Euro will be more complicated and harder to get parts for - those days are gone. You can get Euro parts just as easily as US parts.

2) The Euro versions usually have a different "style" than the US versions - I always prefer the Euro versions. That coupe looks fantastic as it is - I'd have bought it too!

3) How does Euro affect value? In that particular case not at all and possibly makes it worth more because of its "style". For an '80s car, generally speaking the Euros are cheaper than the US versions.

I'd say it's worth the $15,000 if the car is close-to-perfect, but they seldem are. The Seller writes "THE UNDERCARRIAGE,THIS BEING A HAWAII IS ROCK SOLID WITH NO RUST" (sic) - how an island that is surrounded by 24/7 salt air is not conducive to rust, I have no idea. Certainly, the manual tranny and sunroof make it a very cool car to own, but I'd bet the car has had a LOT of work to it over the years.

[t walgamuth]

oh, I see they're only asking 15K...so I guess it's not worth more than that!

Tom W

[Mark DiSilvestro]

Well it sounds like a bargain compared to recent $100K+ muscle-car prices, but seller's comment about 'tiny bubble - surface rust' doesn't reassure! Thumbnail of front fender appears to show a couple of significant brown spots, but I was unable to upload an enlarged veiw. Another tempting car that I wouldn't even consider without seeing it in person.

Happy Motoring, Mark

[1969280s]

Yes, there is some definable bubbling around the rockers and the fender area. He has countered my offer closer to $11k, should I bite or wait for something truly rust free (which has been next to impossible to find).

best,

David

[Mark DiSilvestro]

Typically, 'bubbling' is not minor surface rust, but indicates that it's rustiing through from inside. Unless you can go inspect that car in person and satisfy yourself that it's good enough for you to pay 11K, I say keep looking.

Happy Motoring, Mark

[dmtinker]

Originally Posted by POS

The Seller writes "THE UNDERCARRIAGE,THIS BEING A HAWAII IS ROCK SOLID WITH NO RUST" (sic)

I've been to Hawaii twice and EVERYTHING was rusty. I agree, I have no clue what he's talking about.

A note about the 4 speed manual tranny, they are fun but if you plan on a long drive (more than 20 miles) they are very tiring.

[t walgamuth]

I would think on a long trip the stick is the least different from an automatic. Once you get in high gear you just steer and brake.

Tom W

[deanyel]

Originally Posted by dmtinker

A note about the 4 speed manual tranny, they are fun but if you plan on a long drive (more than 20 miles) they are very tiring.

How so?

[Q45Denver]

Lipstick restoration with dried out rubber and pitted chrome with rust in the usual places. Maybe $8000 if mechanically excellent. Prices appear to be going up recently, so I may be off a couple thou either way.

[cth350]

yes, that car MUST be inspected for rust carefully. (1) it's recently painted white it seems; great for hiding body work (2) the owner would rather have a buick. While that seems like a strange reason to worry, somebody who would make such a change casually isn't all that attached to the car.

As to the euroness factor, that's an issue in the lates 70s and 80s, not in the 50s, 60s cars except for a few minor differences, like lights and instruments.

-CTH

[deanyel]

220SE coupes are not worth $15k - period. There must be an exception to that rule but this car wouldn't be it - not that strong.

[t walgamuth]

I saw one of these recently from Italy. Rust free and in good mechanical fettle. I don't remember the price. I wouldn't buy any of the pre 123 cars unless they are completely rust free from a dry climate. They aren't worth enough to warrent rust repair...any of them, IMHO.


Tom W