Well, after lots of penetrating oil and lots of blows with the hammer it appears the rotor does not want to compromise it's position. I guess I will swing by my friends shop and let him heat it up for me. I am suprised that this car did not have a threaded hole in which you can stick a bolt into and pop off the rotor. Hmmm I guess 10 years of northern weather has taken it's toll on freezing the rotor. I looked over all my records I see no mention of ever having the rear rotors replaced, they still have a pinkish heck mark painted on them from when the car was built.