Originally Posted by aklim

Firstly, I do not consider myself the puppet of god, yahweh, allah, siva, vishnu or whatever. Is there a devine power? Maybe. Maybe not. I don't know. I do not have a bumper sticker that asks "What would Jesus do?" I could care less what anyone does. I do what I do and you do what you do. Of course, we live in a society so I cannot just rape some girl because I felt like so.

Secondly, if I can help it, I do not pay out on potential. Yes, an acorn can become a tree but I am not going to pay you the average price an oak tree for an acorn.

Is the fetus viable? Well, lets look at it closer. If I took it out today, can it survive on it's own within REASONABLE means or do I have to keep it alive by some fantastical means and it goes thru life with all the wonderful effects of being a preemie. Now if you say at 8 months it is alive, I'll buy that. 3 months? No. Like Kerry said, if I remove the fetus and it can be adopted out, go for it. If not, No.

Also, I am the host. I can invite you to my house and I can ask you to leave if I so choose. Just because it is 50 below and no houses for miles and there is a blizzard doesn't mean I should have to keep you there one second longer than I want.

Yes the fetus has a heartbeat from a 2 chamber heart. I do not consider a heartbeat to be the be all and the end all of life. When your heart stops, the doctor tries to restart it. He doesn't just say "Heart stops ticking, I go home". So should I use that to signify life? You hook a corpse to a ventilator and stimulate the heart and it will "live" forever. At what point will it have recognisable brainwaves like you and I? Not in the first trimester. Probabal electric activity but that is not worth counting.

So, Religion is fine thing but I don't let it control my life. I am the host. Therefore you go when I say you go. If someone else can and will adopt you when I say for you to go, fair enough. If not, oh well. Game over.