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Old 03-11-2006, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton
Firstly, let me say that I agree that the system needs some attention to address the issue.

But, the working poor don't subsidize Cheney. It's Cheney who subsidizes the working poor. All of the people who receive emergency health care, or any health care, and are unable to pay the bill, leave the hospital with a defecit. This defecit must be made up in some fashion. So, the health care system...........the people paying the insurance.........must pay more to subsidize the hospitals to keep them in business. Mr. Lim is correct with regard to this.

For the people that can afford the health insurance, the system works in an acceptable manner. For those that can't afford it, the system will leave them with a huge tab that will burden them for the remainder of their days if they are working. For those that can't afford it and have no W2 wages and no assets, the system works perfectly well as it is.........the people who pay into the system subsidize these individuals.........and.........yes that includes Cheney.

Those groups you mention are referred to in Medical Medicare Lingo as DRGs(diagnostic related groups-300 to 400 DRGs) and they dictate for example, how long you can stay in a hospital(how many days medicare will allow you lounge around the hospital after your operation ect), how much Medicare will pay a Doc fore a Procedure--supplies ect just like a Rate Book in a MB Garage for estimating a repair job. Usually at the End of the time allotted and payed for by Medicare, out the Door you go, you may have an IV and an Indwelling Urinary Catheter in you but out you go to recuperate at home.

In this respect I am correct about a Poor or middle class Taxpayer/wage earner footing the Bill for Cheney. He has health care insurance in the Federal Employee Benefit Plan, depending in which of the 200+ plus plans he is able to choose from as a Federal Employee. He pays a Portion(maybe around 40-50% towards his health insurance) and the AMerican Working Taxpayer certainly does pay the Bill for the remaining part of his coverage. This was Kerry's plan to alleviate the Health Insurance crisis in the USA-let all who are uninsured and who desire--join the same FHEBP as Cheney and the Senate/congress, Note key word was to Pay-it was not a freebie! These working poor subsidize his coverage yet they cannot afford this Graet insurance themselves. Same for the Congress/Senate--best of the insurances subsidized by any minimum salary worker thru his/her federal wage taxes......
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