View Single Post
  #44  
Old 06-16-2006, 04:48 PM
Zeitgeist's Avatar
Zeitgeist Zeitgeist is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Cascadia
Posts: 2,304
Quote:
Originally Posted by aklim
Well, like I said before, look at the rulebook before you go any further. See what rules they are playing by and proceed from there. What does the rest of the world use for a rulebook? Do they really do what they say or do they say "Do as I say and not as I do?" You want to talk of peddling influence yet you are unable to assure me that if you went to the country of your choice they don't do the same. What are YOU asking for? What are YOU trying to impart here?

The Iraq fiasco is our doing. The issue was that they broke their agreements, etc, etc. If that is in dispute, please let me know. If they had not played shell games, would we be even having this discussion? Probably not. IIRC, it was believed by the world since we didn't quite believe in creation and destruction of matter. That would explain the numerous resolutions, etc, etc. The people with the veto, like in the cold war, opposed each other for their own reasons. So, as per usual, nothing got done. The French and Germans had lucrative contracts and now they have scrap paper to make bookmarks with. The Russians had IOUs but like the French and Germans, they now have scrap paper. So, do you really believe that they really would vote for war and a regime change? Doubtful. Back to us now. It was deemed in our interests to take care of Hussien before a larger problem came out of it. However support at home was weak because, like you, we wish that the woodcutter would come and take care of Hussien. So, we didn't want too large a footprint there so we sent fewer troops. Fewer troops = more issues. More issues = difficulty in sending more troops to take care of the issue.

Again, I reject the rulebook.

Yes, Saddam was a bad guy that did some bad stuff in the past--bfd. What is in dispute is the pathway we elected to follow. Despite their cynical motives for doing so, those opposing nations opted correctly to resist US unilateral efforts to attack, invade and occupy the formerly sovereign nation of Iraq--bfd. It is in this nation's interest to take care of our own affairs, first and foremost. If Israel had a problem with Saddam Hussein, then that's their concern, and theirs alone. They're more than capable of dealing with any regional player around there. If we've allowed ourselves to become addicted to substances found in another region of the globe, then we need to internally re-assess our priorities; that's principally a domestic matter. The Arabs and Persians aren't obligated to feed our nasty little habit with their sovereign resources, and we have no right to simply confiscate them either; which is exactly what this little fiasco is all about.
Reply With Quote